Kyle,

Yes sir.  Good point, I never thought of water or dirt dropping into
it.  I think I will add a small loop of vacuum tube onto it just so
the opening faces down.

Thanks again for all the help and assistance on this board.  Here's
some pictures of what I did yesterday if you're curious:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2032058&id=1197300068&l=2cd06759f5

On Jan 16, 6:31 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> The second nipple doesn't need a hose, it's only a vent for the back
> side of the diaphragm as you thought. The only reason it's facing down
> to begin with is so it doesn't fill with crud. If it's now facing up
> you could now put a small piece of vacuum line on it facing down and
> open on the other end. Where it's at under the tank though you should
> be ok except in the heaviest of rains.
>
> On 1/16/10, Zaxeiler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So today I worked for about 3 hours on the bike.  I removed the side
> > coverings and the tank.  After draining the tank I removed and
> > examined the petcock.  Opening up the vacuum assembly didn't show any
> > problems, the gasket was in good shape and sealed well.  Furthermore,
> > the bowl at the bottom still had a screen in good shape.  I
> > reassembled the bowl with the slightest teflon tape (sorry
> > Fishmeister, I hadn't seen your post).  Also, I reassembled the vacuum
> > assembly with a slight amount of gasket sealant.  Finally, the top
> > stem, filter, and o-ring needed to be realigned.  I replaced the o-
> > ring and centered the filter again.
>
> > Finally, when reassembling the bike, I replaced the fuel line from the
> > petcock to the carbs.  I figured a new reinforced line with some fresh
> > clamps couldn't hurt.  The vacuum hose however, I did not replace as I
> > wasn't noticing any problem with the suction from the engine before.
>
> > All in all, she's running well again.  However, to get the metal to
> > seal well on the petcock assembly I had to rotate the center piece of
> > metal.  For instance, when you remove the 4 screws to look inside at
> > the gasket the outer piece where the vacuum hose attaches remains
> > unchanged, but the next layer down, the piece of metal with the small
> > opening (to let outside air in, I assume) I rotated 180 degrees so
> > that it now faces up.  Trying to understand how a petcock functions,
> > and since this small opening does not connect to a specific line or
> > anything, I didn't think this would change anything.  Doing this just
> > gave me the best seal possible, as the metal on the petcock had been
> > torqued/warped and no longer laid flush in the other orientations.
>
> > So, she's no longer leaking, and is running beautifully.  And you all
> > are to be thanked (especially Kyle for the pictures).  So thank you
> > for all the aid, hopefully I can contribute to this board in some way
> > to show my appreciation.  But if not, my riding tomorrow will speak
> > volumes about it.
>
> > Zac
>
> > On Jan 15, 1:33 pm, Kim Paddock <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> I bought a multi-pack of small rubber seals from the auto parts store.
> >> Some of them worked on my bikes. HotrodMamma.
>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 10:49:23 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: 1983 Nighthawk 550 Gas Leak
>
> >> I removed my tank first. On the 650 you remove the seat and you can see
> >> one bolt holding the tail-end of the tank down, remove that and it lifts
> >> up and back. Disconnect the fuel line and vacuum line. The 650 also has a
> >> fuel gauge you have to disconnect the wires to the sending unit, I don't
> >> think the 550 has that though. Once the tank is off (and drained) the
> >> petcock just has the one nut holding it on.
> >> New seals I usually get from the dealer, rubber things don't hold up well
> >> in salvage yards. My local dealer is pretty cool about trying to match
> >> online prices, the only problem is these bikes are getting older and some
> >> parts are getting harder for dealers to obtain. You can try finding a
> >> generic replacement at an autoparts store if that fails.
>
> >> -Kyle
> >> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Zaxeiler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Kyle,
>
> >> >>That's really helpful.  Thanks a ton man!  I guess a remaining
> >> >>question though, is without my Clymer manual, how would I get to the
> >> >>point where your photos start?  What are the steps to remove the
> >> >>petcock itself (or is it too complicated and I need to wait for the
> >> >>Clymer to ship)?  And finally, if indeed all the rubber in there is
> >> >>ruined, where's a good place to get new seals?
>
> >> >>Thanks again,
> >> >>Zac
>
> >> >>On Jan 15, 12:37 pm, Kyle Munz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> I have pictures from when I took mine apart on my 650. There should be
> >> >>> some
> >> >>> similarities with your 550 if they're not the same part. Also, once
> >> >>> you have
> >> >>> the petcock off there should be a plastic screen inside the tank that
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> reserve "straw" sticks up into, make sure that doesn't have any rips
> >> >>> or
> >> >>> tears while you're in there.http://munz.kicks-ass.net/nighthawk/?p=151
>
> >> >>> -Kyle
> >> >>> -Sent from Houston, TX, United States
>
> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Zaxeiler <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> > I don't think it's a hole...  However, I did realize it when I had
> >> >>> > it
> >> >>> > running while sitting recently.  It is dripping at a steady pace
> >> >>> > from
> >> >>> > the bottom of the petcock.  The main fuel line that runs from the
> >> >>> > petcock to between the carbs (2 & 3) is also noticeably wet with
> >> >>> > fuel.
>
> >> >>> > My clymer manual isn't here yet.  Any suggestions as far as where to
> >> >>> > start to stop the leak?
>
> >> >>> > Your comments are most appreciated,
> >> >>> > Zac
>
> >> >>> > On Jan 14, 12:47 pm, Kim Paddock <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>> > > The last time that happened to me it was a pinhole leak in my gas
> >> >>> > > tank.
> >> >>> > It had rusted through. It took a little bit of looking though as the
> >> >>> > paint
> >> >>> > was not peeled off. I finally found a spot where the paint had
> >> >>> > bubbled a
> >> >>> > bit. That was the hole. I hope that it isn't your tank...they are
> >> >>> > expensive
> >> >>> > and hard to find. HotrodMamma.
>
> >> >>> > > ________________________________
> >> >>> > > From: Zaxeiler <[email protected]>
> >> >>> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
> >> >>> > > <[email protected]>
> >> >>> > > Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 10:22:27 PM
> >> >>> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1983 Nighthawk 550 Gas Leak
>
> >> >>> > > I just purchased this bike over the weekend.  It's in great
> >> >>> > > condition
> >> >>> > > and is a great ride.  It was sold by a man who collected
> >> >>> > > nighthawks so
> >> >>> > > it's in good shape considering the year, and has about 24k miles
> >> >>> > > on
> >> >>> > > it.  Besides the fact that it's my first bike, and I'm ecstatic
> >> >>> > > and
> >> >>> > > love riding it to death (even in the midst of winter), I have
> >> >>> > > finally
> >> >>> > > deduced tonight that it has a fuel leak.
>
> >> >>> > > So, as back story, I bought it about 120 miles from my home.  The
> >> >>> > > deal
> >> >>> > > was too good to pass up on, and I had a friend drive it back for
> >> >>> > > me.
> >> >>> > > About 2/3 of the way through the trip, after about 70 miles she
> >> >>> > > died
> >> >>> > > on the interstate and needed to be changed to reserve.  Now, I had
> >> >>> > > read that the range of the bike could vary from 80s-140s...
> >> >>> > >  However,
> >> >>> > > considering that we had been doing freeway travel and he had been
> >> >>> > > riding in 6th (overdrive) for most of the trip it seemed unlikely
> >> >>> > > we
> >> >>> > > had been driving aggressively enough to burn through the 3.2 gal
> >> >>> > > tank
> >> >>> > > that soon.
>
> >> >>> > > So, sunday night upon return home, I filled her up at a gas
> >> >>> > > station
> >> >>> > > and began to practice riding around my area.  Monday and Tuesday I
> >> >>> > > did
> >> >>> > > some more practice riding, and considering I'm a new rider, none
> >> >>> > > of it
> >> >>> > > was very aggressive, no red lining, so I shouldn't have run though
> >> >>> > > gas
> >> >>> > > too soon.  Today (Wednesday) after a few great days of riding and
> >> >>> > > 40ish miles (I reset the odometer after filling up) the bike died
> >> >>> > > on
> >> >>> > > me and I had to switch to reserve.  It was only at this time that
> >> >>> > > I
> >> >>> > > had realized she was leaking gas.  Each day I had been noticing a
> >> >>> > > slight drip below the bike, but had assumed it was condensation
> >> >>> > > coming
> >> >>> > > from the bike since it was cold.  I hadn't realized that the bike
> >> >>> > > had
> >> >>> > > been leaking on the ride home, just thought we had gone farther
> >> >>> > > than I
> >> >>> > > remembered.
>
> >> >>> > > So, I understand that this isn't much information to go on.  But
> >> >>> > > here's the spread.  The bike is dripping gas, I hadn't observed it
> >> >>> > > too
> >> >>> > > often, but this is a noticeable mark on the ground after it has
> >> >>> > > been
> >> >>> > > still for awhile.  I rode for 40 miles, so it can be assumed that
> >> >>> > > I
> >> >>> > > actually consumed about 1 gallon, which means that (if you assume
> >> >>> > > something is left in the reserve portion) the bike has leaked
> >> >>> > > about 2
> >> >>> > > gallons of fuel over the course of almost exactly 3 days.
>
> >> >>> > > I know that there's no way from this information that any of you
> >> >>> > > can
> >> >>> > > "know" what the problem is.  However, knowing where to start
> >> >>> > > looking,
> >> >>> > > or a few places to start would help me as a new owner.  If any of
> >> >>> > > you
> >> >>> > > with experience know something that is known to happen with a lot
> >> >>> > > of
> >> >>> > > nighthawks, or if from the information you can make a guess, or at
> >> >>> > > least give any clues whatsoever, I would be most appreciative.
>
> >> >>> > > From one new NH lover to the others, thank you ahead of time,
> >> >>> > > Zac
> >> >>> > > --
> >> >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
> >> >>> > > Groups
> >> >>> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.
> >> >>> > > To post to this group, send email to
> >> >>> > > [email protected].
> >> >>> > > To
>
> ...
>
> read more »
-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group.
To post to this group, send email to [email protected].
To unsubscribe from this group, send email to 
[email protected].
For more options, visit this group at 
http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.


Reply via email to