It's a can of stuff that you can get at Walmart or any auto supply store. It is a penetrating spray just for loosening nuts and bolts ( or whatever). Good stuff it is.
________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 12:41:18 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] What's "PB Blaster"? Jan 27, 2010 11:58:07 AM, [email protected] wrote: Thanks Stanley...LOL! I didn't see where he soaked it in blaster. I wonder if he's tried to heat it up a bit to see if would loosen it? There's more than one way to skin a nut! > > > ________________________________ From: stanley/ Randolph >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 7:53:55 AM >Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further > > >Lighten up, Kim. It appears that he has already soaked it in "blaster," which >to me would be PB? >To "wing nut: " listen to Dennis and disassemble it.. Something's obviously >wrong in there and unlike a car with 4 wheels, you only have two and if >something is wrong with the front, you are inviting catastrophe here. >Ah, like, personal injury? >With a car, you still have three other wheels to bring the machine to a >relatively safe stop, compared to a bike. >I would follow Dennis's instructions. He knows what's up with these machines. > Really. > >Stanley > >--- On Wed, 1/27/10, Kim Paddock wrote: > > >>From: Kim Paddock >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >>To: [email protected] >>Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2010, 7:35 AM >> >> >>>> >> >>Hey Dennis....will you tell this wingnut that he needs to use PB blaster to >>get his axle nut loose? He listens to you...somewhat. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Dennis Hammerl >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 9:36:26 PM >>Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >> >> >>I wouldn't reassemble it till I found out why that is. Too many parts in >>there to disregard. Stepped spacer one side, speedometer drive other side. >>Two bearings, spacer inside.. Axle nut 54' lbs. should be tight but not stuck >>on unless over tightened. Over tightened would damage bearings and pull fork >>tubes together. Missing internal spacer would allow nut to be over tightened. >>Incorrect drive installation would spread forks. Maybe it's fine. The bottom >>line is, it's your butt. For me, I wanna' know. The tire was the giveaway >>that something is wrong. Don't quit untill you know and correct it. I can't >>work this way, my job depends on me doing it right. For me, I'd put a socket >>on the fixed end bolt head and clamp a breaker bar in a vise, and use the >>same deal on the nut end. Put a piece of pipe on the bar and...it's coming >>off. I can't let a customer ride a bike I "think" is OK. It better be right. >> >> >> >> ________________________________ From: Snookfever >>To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >>Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 8:42:32 PM >>Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >> >>Dennis: >> >>I cant get the axel nut loose and I am afraid I am going to break a >>nuckle or worse something on the bike. The wheel appears to spin >>true.I think the axel is fine. I would like to proceed with >>reassembly. Please advise. Please note I have replaced the brake >>pads already. >> >>Glen >> >> >>On Jan 26, 12:41 am, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Send >> pix as attachments. The wear you describe is not right. Pads should wear >> evenly. Wheel is cocked to do this. Your measurements showed this too. That >> would cause the contact patch to be off-center. A careful re-assembly is >> going to take care of this. Still have to inspect the axle and get that >> right first. Gee, this bike will be totally different when you get done. >> Handle and brake better. >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tue, January 26, 2010 12:29:33 AM >>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >>> >>> Dennis; >>> >>> I >> do not know how to post a picture to an existing string. The pads >>> are worn as if on a skew. One pads is thinner at the top then it is at >>> the bottom and the other pad is the opposite thicker on the top then >>> on the bottom. Wheel spin was relative to axel in hand. When in the >>> forks without brakes wheel spins smooth and easy. I took a picture of >>> the pads and will try to e-mail to you directly..Still can get nut off >>> soking it in blaster. >>> >>> Glen >>> >>> On Jan 25, 11:22 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > Wear is uneven ? Send pix. Wheel requires some effort to turn ? Something >>> > very wrong here. Get the axle apart and see. Resolve this before we go >>> > any further. This sounds like an assembly problem. >> Incorrect order of assembly or parts missing. The speedo drive cannot drag >> the wheel down but a missing bearing spacer would. Let's see the pads and >> what they tell us. The wear pattern is a giveaway. >>> >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >>> > Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 9:27:36 PM >>> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >>> >>> > Dennis: >>> >>> > I have rexamined everything very closley and here is what I found: >>> >>> > Found a very small amount of play in the neck, tightened 1/8 >> turn. >>> >>> > Brake pads are mettalic and wear is uneven and down to 1/8 inch or >>> > less (I have new organic pads). >>> >>> > I still cant get axle nut loose. Fok oil leaked out of the anti-dive >>> > adjust. Leak is now fixed will try to get axle nut off again later. >>> > Spinning wheel in the forks it looked true and has no play. Axle spins >>> > but not without effort, I am assuming speedo is slowing it down. >>> >>> > I examined the fork tubes carefully with a strait edge and I >> cant find >>> > any defects. >>> >>> > What course of action do you recommend next? >>> >>> > Glen >>> >>> > On Jan 24, 11:12 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > Is there any movement of the relationship between the upper and lower >>> > > fork bridges while twisting ? Did you get the axle out ? >>> > > While twisting the tubes, is there any movement of the very bottom of >>> > > the fork ? Your measurements show that there is something flexed >>> > > somewhere. The first things to flex are fork tubes. That's why this is >>> > > so important. If you can't find any deviation in any component, then >>> > > let's try reassembly in a very special sequence. >>> >>> > > ________________________________ >>> > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >>> > > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 10:54:40 PM >>> > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >>> >>> > > Dennis: >>> >>> > > Twisting forks in the clamps I do not notice any binding or tight >>> > > spots? Now what? >>> >>> > > Glen >>> >>> > > On Jan 20, 10:51 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > > Other than disabling the anti-dive, it shouldn't make a difference. >>> > > > There's >> something wrong with your bike and it may be cured by careful re-assembly. >> But, don't hurry to get there. >>> >>> > > > ________________________________ >>> > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >>> > > > Sent: Wed, January 20, 2010 10:28:58 PM >>> > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment >> further >>> >>> > > > Dennis: >>> >>> > > > Not sure if this could make a difference, but when I replace my fork >>> > > > seals last year I disasembled the forks to clean out all the old oil >>> > > > and I misplaced the ball berring and spring that act as the holder for >>> > > > the anti dive adjustment nob. I assembled with out it and used an o >>> > > > ring to hold the nob in place. I recently found the ball bering and >>> > > > spring and replaced them tonight. >>> >>> > > > Glen >>> >>> > > > On Jan 20, 10:15 pm, Snookfever <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > > > Dennis: >>> >>> > > > > Calipers >> working fine, pins still have grease and slide smooth >>> > > > > (calipers cleaned and pins greased when I did the fork seals last >>> > > > > year) >>> > > > > Brake pads at 50% look fine no unusual wear >>> > > > > No problems with fork brace or fender >>> > > > > Wheel mounted correctly >>> > > > > Forks slide in an out smoothly >>> > > > > Cant get axle nut loose to remove axle from wheel. Is it standard >>> > > > > thread left loosy? >>> > > > > Axle has no play >>> > > > > Checked wheel base and it measure 59.5 inches (axle center to axle >>> > > > > center). >>> >>> > > > > What next? >>> >>> > > > > On Jan 19, 10:45 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > > > > Very good. That was an incidental because it was a good time to >>> > > > > > perform the check. Better to find a problem now and not later. >>> > > > > > Twisting the fork tubes and such are more to the point. While you >>> > > > > > have a small deviation from correct, it makes it harder to find >>> > > > > > the exact flaw. I do expect the fork tubes to be somewhat flexed. >>> > > > > > Another thought that passed through is a misplaced spacer on the >>> > > > > > front axle. The purpose of all this is to return it to a near >>> > > > > > perfect alignment in two planes. Yours is off in both. That's >>> > > > > > what is leading me to flexed fork tubes. When this is >>> > > > > > reassembled, there will be a sequence of operations to insure >>> > > > > > alignment. I've found over the years that a good many people will >>> > > > > > replace a tire and neglect the fine points of assembly. Go slow >>> > > > > > and be methodical. >>> >>> > > > > > >> ________________________________ >>> > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >>> > > > > > <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > Sent: Tue, January 19, 2010 10:25:40 PM >>> > > > > > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment further >>> >>> > > > > > Dennis: >>> >>> > > > > > Smooth as glass left to right and no movement up and down. Will >>> > > > > > check >>> > > > > > the brake calipers and front axle towmorrow. >>> >>> > > >> > > > Glen >>> >>> > > > > > On Jan 17, 4:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > > > > > This should keep you busy for a while. Get back to me. >>> >>> > > > > > > ________________________________ >>> > > > > > > From: Snookfever <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! >>> > > > > > > <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > Sent: Sun, January 17, 2010 1:28:23 PM >>> > > > > > >> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: alignment >>> >>> > > > > > > Dennis: >>> >>> > > > > > > Test results are as you predicted. The front wheel is not >>> > > > > > > square and >>> > > > > > > it is not centered when compared to the rear. Off aligment by >>> > > > > > > about >>> > > > > > > +/- 3/8 inch and out of square by +/- 1/8 inch. Tires were 10 >>> > > > > > > lbs low >>> > > > > > > on air. No signs of front end damage or repair. Please note I >>> > > > > > > replaced the fork seals when I first got it and completely >>> > > > > > > dissasembled both forks . The shop manual doesnot specify a >>> > > > > > > the fork >>> > >> > > > > > placement (height) in the clamps. The are currently 3/8 inch >> > > > > > (fork >>> > > > > > > tube not including cap) above the top clamp same for both sides. >>> >>> > > > > > > What next? >>> >>> > > > > > > Glen >>> >>> > > > > > > On Jan 15, 11:52 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> >>> > > > > > > wrote:> Start here Glen. >>> >>> > > > > > > > alignment.doc >>> > > > > > > > 29KViewDownload >>> >>> > > > > > > -- >>> > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> > > > > > > Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> > > > > > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > > > > > [email protected]. >>> > > > > > > For more options, visit this group >>> > > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >>> >>> > > > > > > further checks.doc >>> > > > > > > 13KViewDownload >>> >>> > > > > > -- >>> > > > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to >>> > > > > > [email protected]. >>> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > > > > [email protected]. >>> > > > > > For more options, visit this group >>> > > > > > athttp://groups.google..com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- >>> >>> >> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> > > > > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> > > > -- >>> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> > > > To post to this group, send email to >>> > > > [email protected].. >>> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > > [email protected]. >>> > > > For more options, visit this group >>> > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext >>> > > > - >>> >>> > > > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> > > -- >>> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > > Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected].. >>> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > > [email protected]. >>> > > For more >> options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hidequoted text - >>> >>> > > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > [email protected]. >>> > For more >> options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - >>> >>> > - Show quoted text - >>> >>> -- ... >>> >>> read more ยป- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> >>-- >>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >>To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >>For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. >> > > >-- >> >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >> >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > >-- >> >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >> >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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