It was the 60's. Pete Robinson was the only person to ever win The top dragster (AA/D) division using a small block Chevy. (Pamona, I believe) The Chevy started as a 283 and even with a bore and stroke to 441 cid was still giving much away to the Kieth Black Hemi's of the day. Topped with a 671 at one to one, he used an unusually high compression ratio. This was tamed by water injection. It was protested and for last round, he removed it. He got the win and low ET of the meet. Typical of those things, it expired in the traps when he let off. He knew what he was doing and the motor was expendable at that point.
________________________________ From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 10:34:39 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: more power and water injection No, Dennis, you didn't. How 'way back when are we talkin 'bout? I had a friend who knew of, and was friends with one of the engineers for one of the automakers in Detroit, some of whom water injected their own cars and he told me about it, but that was in the early '60s. Before I bought my first Honda, the step-thru 50 I used to get to school at Arizona State. They were fast. Uh, the cars, not the Honda 50. ________________________________ From: Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:55:26 PM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: more power and water injection Hey Stanley, did I ever tell you about the water injected top fuel car from way back when ? ________________________________ From: stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:18:32 PM Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: more power and water injection It can be somewhere upstream, in the manifold. The water will invade the gasoline droplets and basically the gas surrounds the water droplets and when the spark ignites the gas, the water expands and makes smaller droplets of fuel, and the smaller droplets can burn more quickly and also the steam adds power because it is expanding rapidly along with the charge. All this happens in milliseconds. I have a simple vapor generator which acts on the engine's vacuum. Of course, it is most efficient at idle when vacuum is greatest, but then, idling in traffic uses a lot of fuel... You can look up water injection online and find all sorts of devices, some quite elaborate and over $1,000 last I checked. They're more by now, but they are great for increasing mileage, safer than NOS for increasing power, and you can use 87 octane fuel even with high compression, with water injection. Just don't run out of water. :) It increases mileage slightly; but my hydrogen generator - my own invention also - increased mileage about 50% on my Rodeo, and I haven't installed it in my new Ford F150 yet. It has a bad coilpack or two, have to put it on a machine and find out which ones. I had a Dodge Dynasty which also gave between 50% and 60% better mileage and it also cleaned up a filthy engine inside. By that I mean the oil was black within 500 miles when I first bought it, and that with only 88,000 miles. With my hydrogen/oxygen generator and vapor generator, the engine regained enough power to spin the tires from stop just by hitting the gas, and at 100,000 miles the oil didn't get filthy any more. Stanley ________________________________ From: paul annen <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 16, 2010 9:58:05 AM Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] i want more power from my 82 450 nighthawk... talk to me more about this water injection.... is it basically shooting a small amount of water in the cylinder to flash it to steam??? if so wouldent the hot gas expansion of gasoline (volume of liquid gasoline in ratio to exaust gas) be more then the expansion ratio of water to steam??? On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 2:16 AM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> wrote: As I mentioned in a previous post, water injection and 12.5 compression. It not only ups the HP immensely and safely, it also doubles your mileage, about. That means you would be getting around 120 mpg instead of 60. Mine gets around 60, so I am making an assumption here... > >Stanley > > > > > ________________________________ From: jace <[email protected]> >To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> >Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 2:36:12 PM >Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] i want more power from my 82 450 nighthawk... > > >hello all, >im new to this group & glad to be here. i just bought an 82 450 >nighthawk and im pleased with it , its just im a big guy and i sure >could use more horsepower. what is the first thing (or cheapest ) >thing i can do for more power thanks > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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