glen this #4 ansi and #3m what does it mean in real terms ie i am told the #4 =1/32 so two washers equal 1/16 of an inch is it ? what is the diameter of the washer? and the diameter of the hole? in metric or inches or do u know? thanks the picture demo is not in actual sizes hence the confusion... u seem to know what u are talking about polo
From: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 30, 2010 10:33 AM To: Digest Recipients Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] - 14 Messages in 4 Topics Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics a.. Just did the hodges exhaust mod and #4 washer mod on my 92. [2 Updates] b.. New to the Group [8 Updates] c.. New To Group [3 Updates] d.. So, I got my cables ['85 650] [1 Update] Topic: Just did the hodges exhaust mod and #4 washer mod on my 92. Glen <[email protected]> May 29 06:41PM -0700 ^ The 1984-1986 700 s does not have the same baffle design as the later model 750's. The end plate has a two inch cone welded to it, thats it. Beyond that is a baffle welded in with two 1/2 inch tubes in it. However simply removing the end plate baffle has a similar effect as the "hodge" mod. I imagine you could simmply drill holes in the end baffle. I chose to simply remove it. The # 4 washers (ANSI) or #3 m (metric) can be used to move the needle up to enrich the fuel air mixture.However a number 006 O-ring (1/16 w, 1/8 ID. 1/4 OD) is a few thousands thicker then two #4 washers and will provide a slitly richer mixture. The result on my 1984 700 s is a deeper tone, more low end and mid range. Not sure I need first gear anymore, rolling stops in 3rd are no problem. Still feels like it wants more fuel at 0-1/8 throttle. May need to up the slow jet size to balance out the idle mixture with the richer low end and mid range. Removing the end baffle and raising the needles 1/16 inch completly changes the way it performs. Its like a totaly diffent machine. I love the tone, sounds similar to a bugati but a higher pitch. Very nice low tourquey sound. I found my self constantly snapping the throttle just to hear it tansition from low to high. Very cool. Glen Allen Thomas <[email protected]> May 29 11:11PM -0400 ^ Yea I am thinking that the main jet needs a bump up as highway performance is still lacking power. That of course will require a needle adjustment (lower) and then a slow jet. So, while the washer mod cures most if the ills a jet kit is really what's needed. -- Sent from my mobile device Topic: New to the Group Noah Goodall <[email protected]> May 29 01:14PM -0400 ^ Hi everyone! I just purchased a 1985 CB450SC Nighthawk a couple weeks ago, and got my license last week. Thanks to all the rain recently, I've only been out four times, but I love it! I don't have a car, so this is my main ride if I have to go out of town. I'm really enjoying reading through all your old emails, and I'm hoping to build a DIY luggage rack / sissy bar for some planned camping and touring later this summer. I'd love to hear any advice you have on that, or any advice for a new rider. Thanks, and take care! -Noah Kyle Munz <[email protected]> May 29 06:12PM -0500 ^ Hey you posted pics of your ride! That'll earn you points with this group. Welcome aboard ;) -Kyle "[email protected]" <[email protected]> May 29 04:21PM -0700 ^ What area are you in?? And congrats on only having 2 wheeles, im in the same boat (no pun intended). I dont have my NH anymore due to the fact that i am now 300 pounds and the little 250 just wasent enough for my hour commute (but i love my 86 GL1200 almost as much)... what part of the world are you in?? Always up for a ride in central florida... And Welcome -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010 7:06:51 pm To: [email protected] From: "Noah Goodall" <[email protected]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] New to the Group Attachments: 100_0863.JPG (118 KB), 100_0862.JPG (108 KB) Hi everyone! I just purchased a 1985 CB450SC Nighthawk a couple weeks ago, and got my license last week. Thanks to all the rain recently, I've only been out four times, but I love it! I don't have a car, so this is my main ride if I have to go out of town. I'm really enjoying reading through all your old emails, and I'm hoping to build a DIY luggage rack / sissy bar for some planned camping and touring later this summer. I'd love to hear any advice you have on that, or any advice for a new rider. Thanks, and take care! -Noah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Joey Kelley <[email protected]> May 29 08:06PM -0400 ^ Noah, Welcome aboard! Congrats on your new ride and welcome to the world of motorcycling. I find my luggage rack to be extremely useful, has enabled me to carry a lot of things, even if I'm actually placing them on the second seat. Once you have it built, find yourself a nice cargo net, they sell them at bike and ATV shops, a good one should last years. Regarding a novice rider - I have ridden by a simple piece of advice my Father gave me - Assume You Won't Be Seen. Remember that most drivers are looking for a vehicle that is much larger than you are - so you have to look for them. Particularly in the rain and at night, remember that although black leather might look cool - a reflective vest over your regular riding gear (think something like your local law enforcement folks wear) is much safer. As someone with almost 10,000 miles ridden on my 1982 450 Nighthawk, I can say that my bike has taught me a lot about motorcycling - sometimes the hard way. One thing you want to do and I'm sure others will back me up on this - be sure you have a spare set of spark plugs with you and a spark plug wrench at all times. My NH has never left me stranded, but there have been a couple of times when she fouled a plug and believe me, a two cylinder bike does not run well on one cylinder! (Not sure if there is a difference between the 1982s and the 1985s, but I use NGK DR8ES-L plugs) Welcome aboard and please keep us all posted on how you and your NH are doing! -Joey 82 CB450SC, Brewer, ME "[email protected]" <[email protected]> May 29 05:54PM -0700 ^ I agree with your fathers advice... My dad gave me 2, the first is similar "pretend you are invisabe because they just dont see you" and the other "HEAD CHECKS!!!!" my parrents ride of choice was the rebel 450 early 80s vintage... As a matter of fact he had 4 of them... -----Original Message----- Date: Saturday, May 29, 2010 8:07:05 pm To: [email protected] From: "Joey Kelley" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] New to the Group Noah, Welcome aboard! Congrats on your new ride and welcome to the world of motorcycling. I find my luggage rack to be extremely useful, has enabled me to carry a lot of things, even if I'm actually placing them on the second seat. Once you have it built, find yourself a nice cargo net, they sell them at bike and ATV shops, a good one should last years. Regarding a novice rider - I have ridden by a simple piece of advice my Father gave me - Assume You Won't Be Seen. Remember that most drivers are looking for a vehicle that is much larger than you are - so you have to look for them. Particularly in the rain and at night, remember that although black leather might look cool - a reflective vest over your regular riding gear (think something like your local law enforcement folks wear) is much safer. As someone with almost 10,000 miles ridden on my 1982 450 Nighthawk, I can say that my bike has taught me a lot about motorcycling - sometimes the hard way. One thing you want to do and I'm sure others will back me up on this - be sure you have a spare set of spark plugs with you and a spark plug wrench at all times. My NH has never left me stranded, but there have been a couple of times when she fouled a plug and believe me, a two cylinder bike does not run well on one cylinder! (Not sure if there is a difference between the 1982s and the 1985s, but I use NGK DR8ES-L plugs) Welcome aboard and please keep us all posted on how you and your NH are doing! -Joey 82 CB450SC, Brewer, ME -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Noah Goodall <[email protected]> May 29 09:28PM -0400 ^ Thanks for the advice! I'm coming into motorcycling after five years of racing road bicycles, so I'm used to feeling invisible. What I'm not used to is feeling invisible when things are happening at highway speeds! I'm learning to look much farther ahead, and anticipate things a few seconds earlier than I'm accustomed to. I'll keep working at it. Great advice about the spark plugs! I'll definitely pick up a set tomorrow. I'm taking my first long ride over the Blue Ridge Mountains to visit my Mom, about 100 miles round trip. According to Clymer, I need a NGK DPR8EA-9. I think they switched after 1982. -Noah On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 8:54 PM, [email protected] < Joey Kelley <[email protected]> May 29 09:42PM -0400 ^ Noah, You're welcome! I keep my spark plugs in the document holder under the seat of my NH - I also don't have the original tool kit, so a cheap ratchet and socket for changing plugs ($5 at a tool store) resides in the tool pocket. I use the document holder for documents as well - within a plastic bag. If / when you're required to replace the plugs on the road, be sure to replace them at the earliest opportunity. After a while, motorcycling gets in your blood, don't worry, its something you'll grow to love! -Joey Javier Garcia <[email protected]> May 29 10:05PM -0400 ^ Noah, welcome! nice ride you got. The only advice I can give (I started riding just a bit more than a year ago) is, LEAR HOW TO STOP. Just like that. Practice as much as you how to apply your brakes in the most efficient and quick way to make a good stop. I can save your life. Be safe, respect the traffic laws, and be prepared to brake, and you would be fine. Javier. Topic: New To Group Graham Rogers <[email protected]> May 29 09:02AM -0400 ^ Kyle! I already have a black and blue '84 what would I want with another one! Graham On May 29, 2010, at 5:32 AM, Kyle Munz wrote: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> May 29 09:40AM -0500 ^ One for odd number days and one for even number days? -Kyle Graham Rogers <[email protected]> May 29 12:41PM -0400 ^ I already have. yesterday I bought a 1986 NH 700S with 2600 miles on it. Last started in 2002 Graham On May 29, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kyle Munz wrote: Topic: So, I got my cables ['85 650] surfswab <[email protected]> May 29 08:45AM -0700 ^ Ebay's your best bet for the petcock. That's an old/odd enuf part that it will probly take awhile to find, though, unless someone's parting out a bike. You might want to innovate and try to remove the rust from the one you have. Old school naval jelly removes rust from most metals and is commonly available at hardware stores and probly the marine store greenzero suggested as a source for custom-made cables. It doesn't convert the rust like most rust treatment products do. It removes it completely. You paint it on with a brush, let it soak awhile, then wash it off with water and dry it immediately with a hair dryer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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