Very good Joey, do you think Amsoil would reducing engine temp in an
air cooled m/cycle? I should say has anyone tested to see if it does
reduce the engine temp? Graham
On Jun 25, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Joey Kelley wrote:
Graham and All,
I am not a chemist - nor do I play one on TV - but - I do
live in one of the colder states in the US (by colder I mean that we
do get snow and that the winter temperatures often hover around or
below freezing) so I do have the occasion to see one of the major
benefits of Synthetic oil, cold weather starting. This doesn't apply
(I Hope!) to anyone on a motorcycle but it did prove the concept to
me.
First the background and financial benefits:
I used to have a 2003 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 3.1L V6. I
ran 3000 miles on conventional oil changes for many miles. I began
looking at the prices one day on a Mobil 1 Synthetic change and
discovered that the price was less than double what my conventional
changes were costing me. In other words if I ran 6,000 mile changes, I
would be ahead of the game. I went for it. I only did two changes with
Mobil 1 and a friend, and Amsoil dealer, mentioned Amsoil to me and
offered me a case at a good price. I ran my first oil change 10,000
miles on Amsoil and the oil didn't appear to have broken down at all
on draining. I vowed to run that next change for 12,000 and wound up
trading the car in before I had to drain it again. I assume that the
oil would have been good as new. I determined that the Amsoil was
costing me approximately three times as much as a conventional name
brand oil - but I was running it four times longer. In effect, a 25%
savings.
Here was the difference in performance:
Operating temperature of engine:
Conventional - 210 degrees
Mobil 1 - 200 degrees
Amsoil - 190
Gas mileage increase:
Conventional - 0
Mobil 1 - 2 MPG average
Amsoil - 5 MPG average
The real proof one day that the synthetic had superior
cold temperature performance was the day I went out to start the
Pontiac in -30 degrees F temperatures. I was running Severe Service
0w30 Amsoil at the time and I put the key in the ignition and turned
it and the engine fired right up. Just like it was 50 degrees outside.
I left the engine idling for a few minutes and when I shifted the
automatic transmission (still conventional lube) into reverse it took
about 30 seconds to shift into gear. It hit hard when it did too.
I did have one experience a few years earlier with my
Dad's 1987 HD FLHTC. It had been modified with domed pistons and HI po
cams, valves, heads etc. (Stage II Screaming Eagle Kit) The starter on
the 87 Hogs was known to be weak and the bike would often have to be
jumped if it didn't fire right away. In an attempt to make it easier
to start, we put Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil in to the old beast. Not
only did it improve the starting characteristics, we actually had to
drop the idle jet down by about 33 percent, proof that the reduced
friction was in fact working.
Just my thoughts and experiences - prices and such may
vary as all of this was at least three years ago.
-Joey
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Graham Rogers <[email protected]>
wrote:
I'd be interested in knowing more - like why Amsoil?
On Jun 25, 2010, at 1:39 PM, Joey Kelley wrote:
Not to continue / start a big Oil War on the subject, but, All
Synthetics are not created equal. The two best ones on the market IN
MY OPINION are Mobil 1 and Amsoil. I was so impressed with the
Amsoil
I had in my last Pontiac I became a dealer. I've since let my
dealership lapse (its a yearly renewal) but my opinion of the
products
hasn't changed.
Just my opinion.
-Joey
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