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Go to http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/ Click on edit my membership - then you can select unsubscribe. Then you will not get anymore emails from the group. On Sep 13, 6:40 pm, Per Loge <[email protected]> wrote: > stopp nigthawk lowers mailing list > best regards > per loge > > --- Den man 2010-09-13 skrev [email protected] > <[email protected]>: > > Fra: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > Emne: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] - 25 > Messages in 4 Topics > Til: "Digest Recipients" <[email protected]> > Dato: Mandag 13. september 2010 23.00 > > Today's Topic Summary > Group:http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics > > this mornings brush with death [12 Updates] > Fuel grades? [11 Updates] > 1995 Honda Nighthawk CB 750 [1 Update] > speaking of diesel bikes... [1 Update] > Topic: this mornings brush with death > yeti <[email protected]> Sep 13 12:55PM -0700 ^ > > > i wrote this out on facebook.. please follow the link, read and > comment... > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&¬e_id=126136737437482#!/note.php?note_id=126136737437482 > > for those without facebook... > > > so, this morning i got a little scared on my way to work. driving > through daytona (the motorcycle capital of the world!!!) and a guy in > a car decided to merge right into me. now this isent big news, anybody > that has driven a bike for any amount of time has had the chance to > share a lane with a car. but today was different, i had krissie on the > back and that makes me drive more carefully, but on top of that i > dident see the guy start to come over. i was passing him in the left > lane and right when i was at the drivers window he was so close i > could smell hes morning coffee through the glass. i was able to find > my horn button quickly (not an easy task in a rush on the wing) and he > pulled back over in a rush. but not before i could react and get my > foot out... > > my point is that i love my wing, but i cant help thinking that if i > were on a louder bike (like an HD) he might have head me and not tried > to merge right then. on the other hand why should i sacrifice my > comfort (mostly talking hearing here) by driving a noise machine just > to get other motorists to pay attention like there supposed to > anyway.. guess it goes back to what one of my friends keeps saying "i > would rather be wrong and alive then dead and right" > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:03PM -0400 ^ > > > Depending on what kind of car he was in, being on a louder bike > wouldn't have helped you at all. Any of the various "high end" and > "luxury" cars are so isolated from outside noises that only the > absolute loudest of bikes is going to be able to be heard well enough > for you to tell it's "close." > > Add in the fact that most drivers are /annoyed/ by the super-loud > bikes, and annoyed drivers tend toward more aggressive, less > thoughtful driving, and I can only see this becoming a vicious cycle. > As Tim can attest, I have several times made the comment that "some > pipes are loud enough you /want/ to hit that guy." And remember that > up until a couple months ago, I was a very confirmed car-driver, and > diesels besides. > > Hope all is well after this, > > -Kurt > > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:09PM -0400 ^ > > > nobody got hurt.. but he was close enough to hear my stock horn, so i can > only assume that he could have heard HD stock pipes... but yea, drivers tend > to tune them out and drive like assholes anyway... and i hate the super loud > pipes anyway.. > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:18PM -0400 ^ > > > I've noticed that behaviour in more than a few fellow riders too, so I > more think it's "people on the road" tend to tune others out and be > assholes... Just saying. > > > > MrViggy <[email protected]> Sep 13 02:25PM -0600 ^ > > > Ditto, even when I'm driving my car! It's not so much that people aren't > paying attention to bikes, they aren't paying attention to ANYTHING! > > Viggy > > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Sep 13 03:25PM -0500 ^ > > > The cars behind you will hear the loud pipes, the cars in front not so much. > The fact is that all of those 4wheeled jacks ARE TRYING TO KILL YOU! You > have to remember that every day, every mile. > > -Kyle > > > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:28PM -0400 ^ > > > exactly.. only in a minor fender bender with a car both parties can walk > away... pissed at eachother, but alive and healthy... bike vs car, your > looking at broken leg or worse... my point(s) is to stay vigilant and (this > was more for my FB people) look twice and save a life > > > > Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:40PM -0400 ^ > > > In a 4-wheel cage vs bike accident - even if the biker is right, he > gets the damage. > -Joey > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:42PM -0400 ^ > > > hence "i would rather be wrong and alive then dead and right" > > > > "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> Sep 13 08:43PM ^ > > > Personally when I'm in my cage I try to stay in front of the loud pipe guys. > Simply because getting stuck behind them is so loud and annoying. While I > would never cut one off to get ahead of one, other drivers probably do, and I > don't even blame them. You can be safe without being obnoxious. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > > -----Original Message----- > From: yeti <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 12:55:53 > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!<[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] this mornings brush with death > > i wrote this out on facebook.. please follow the link, read and > comment... > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?created&¬e_id=126136737437482#!/note.php?note_id=126136737437482 > > for those without facebook... > > > so, this morning i got a little scared on my way to work. driving > through daytona (the motorcycle capital of the world!!!) and a guy in > a car decided to merge right into me. now this isent big news, anybody > that has driven a bike for any amount of time has had the chance to > share a lane with a car. but today was different, i had krissie on the > back and that makes me drive more carefully, but on top of that i > dident see the guy start to come over. i was passing him in the left > lane and right when i was at the drivers window he was so close i > could smell hes morning coffee through the glass. i was able to find > my horn button quickly (not an easy task in a rush on the wing) and he > pulled back over in a rush. but not before i could react and get my > foot out... > > my point is that i love my wing, but i cant help thinking that if i > were on a louder bike (like an HD) he might have head me and not tried > to merge right then. on the other hand why should i sacrifice my > comfort (mostly talking hearing here) by driving a noise machine just > to get other motorists to pay attention like there supposed to > anyway.. guess it goes back to what one of my friends keeps saying "i > would rather be wrong and alive then dead and right" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:49PM -0400 ^ > > > When I get my next bike I'm planning on looking at one of those > headlight modulators that reduces the low beam and pulses it to full > strength - just enough to make it look a little more visible. > -Joey > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > Need Computer Technical > support?http://www.crossloop.com/JoeyKelleyComputerServices > At your service - via remote control! > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:52PM -0400 ^ > > > ive thought about doing this as well, just havent had the $ and time yet... > but i dont know that it would have helped this morning though... guy never > put on his blinker to come over > > > > > Topic: Fuel grades? > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sep 13 04:48AM -0700 ^ > > > My guess is that becaue the higher octane gas burns slower, theres longer > slower burn in the cylender (insted of a faster pop) causing less pressure > and therefore less blow by gasses... This put more energy to the crank then > blowing past my worn ot rings.... Its only got 78,000 miles on it now > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:04:47 am > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > From: "Stumpi" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > Ohh an '86? Hummm I wonder why it runs better? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Sep 13 09:36AM -0500 ^ > > > I don't know if it's just the summer heat, but my bike runs like crap when I > try putting premium in it. 87 octane from a reputable gas station seems to > work best for me. > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:48 AM, [email protected] < > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sep 13 08:03AM -0700 ^ > > > Dont know.... But if your bikes happier with the cheep stuff.... That aint a > bad thing.... My 250 i would almost always use regular and it never > complained, and i dont notice a big diffrence with regulay in the wing, but > the proof is in the numbers for me... > > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:37:10 am > To: [email protected] > From: "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > I don't know if it's just the summer heat, but my bike runs like crap when I > try putting premium in it. 87 octane from a reputable gas station seems to > work best for me. > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:48 AM, [email protected] < > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Sep 13 09:34AM -0700 ^ > > > It would seem that the 250 thrives on a good quality regular. Like, mine gets > better mileage and runs smoother on Shell regular than a mid grade off - > brand. > Can't say why. It just does. > > Stanley > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 10:03:24 AM > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > Dont know.... But if your bikes happier with the cheep stuff.... That aint a > bad > thing.... My 250 i would almost always use regular and it never complained, > and > i dont notice a big diffrence with regulay in the wing, but the proof is in > the > numbers for me... > > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 10:37:10 am > To: [email protected] > From: "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > I don't know if it's just the summer heat, but my bike runs like crap when I > try putting premium in it. 87 octane from a reputable gas station seems to > work best for me. > > -Kyle > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 6:48 AM, [email protected] < > > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > Kyle Munz <[email protected]> Sep 13 12:07PM -0500 ^ > > > I would trust regular grade from a clean, well-maintained station over > premium from some dirty, water in the tanks, no-name station any day. > > > -Kyle > > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sep 13 10:12AM -0700 ^ > > > The stations i most frequent are walmart and the little no name place around > the corner from the boat that sells pipes and "accessories".... And because > both sell ALOT of fuel i dont worry about quality that much... I wan all the > diesel stuff on the boat from diesel from the corner store and now all the > gas for the outboard and gas gen come from there as well... > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:08:07 pm > To: [email protected] > From: "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > I would trust regular grade from a clean, well-maintained station over > premium from some dirty, water in the tanks, no-name station any day. > > > -Kyle > > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Sep 13 01:14PM -0400 ^ > > > I've been filling up at the same station for the past six fillups. Sunoco > station, I even usually get the same pump. > > On Sep 13, 2010 1:08 PM, "Kyle Munz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I would trust regular grade from a clean, well-maintained station over > premium from some dirty, water in the tanks, no-name station any day. > > > -Kyle > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:34 AM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Sep 13 10:18AM -0700 ^ > > > Your engine doesn't have to be fuel injected to have a knock sensor. It is a > safety device, really, because they are doing all they can to max out the > engine's power and not reach the detonation point on low octane fuel. Even if > your compression is relatively low, I bet there is. > I had to set the timing on my Beetles to the point just a bit more retarded > than > hearing a ping under hard acceleration. In other words, I retarded > under WOT until I heard no more knock or ping, and then a couple more degrees, > to prevent damaging the engine. > I usually set the compression on my engines at around 8.3:1 or so. Most I did > was 8.5 > A knock sensor will retard the timing automatically, so there's no guessing. > Now, with a hydrogen generator added, retarding isn't neccessary, and I could > set my compression at more than 9:1. I just may do that next time I build > one... > If there is a next time? > > Stanley > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, September 12, 2010 11:00:28 PM > Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > I dont think it does... Its a 1986 carbed.... Engine wise its pretty simple, > but > thats why i love it > > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sunday, September 12, 2010 11:43:51 pm > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > From: "Stumpi" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > green I'd be willing to bet your Wing has a knock sensor. It retards > the timing to prevent detonation making less power causing you to open > the throttle more. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Sep 13 10:25AM -0700 ^ > > > Well, the local Shell stations sell a good volume; and I have yet to see a > dirty Shell station. Murphy has been known to have water-in-the-gas issues. > So > has RaceTrac, and this, despite the volume of fuel they each sell. I have > heard > of several persons having their gas tanks drained because of it, at the > expense > of either Murphy or RaceTrac. > > Stanley > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 12:07:28 PM > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > I would trust regular grade from a clean, well-maintained station over premium > from some dirty, water in the tanks, no-name station any day. > > > -Kyle > > > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 11:34 AM, stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It would seem that the 250 thrives on a good quality regular. Like, mine gets > better mileage and runs smoother on Shell regular than a mid grade off - > brand. > >Can't say why. It just does. > > > >Stanley > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > stanley/ Randolph <[email protected]> Sep 13 10:42AM -0700 ^ > > > That the fuel burns more slowly (relatively) may be true but I doubt that at > 78,000 miles your engine has highly worn rings unless you neglect it and ride > without an air filter. The Nips make great engines that are just getting > broken > in at around 100,000 miles. I have taken them apart back when I was working > on > all sorts of cars cars; I was sick when I took apart a very neglected Toyota > engine that swallowed two valves in one cylinder and there was not only no lip > at the top, the factory machining was still evident. > I've taken apart some of our domestic engines and had to bore out the > cylinders twenty to thirty thousandths oversize and fit with new pistons. > I suspect your Wing is quite healthy. I also suspect it has a knock sensor. > If your engine is designed to use regular, it probably won't run well on the > high octane fuel. The slower burn may cause burned valves, especially in a > high > revving engine. It simply can't burn the fuel in that few milliseconds it has > in the chamber, so it's still burning when the exhaust valves open. I poorly > adjusted exhaust valve will not be able to transfer enough of the heat to the > head and will burn. > > > Stanley > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 6:48:37 AM > Subject: RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > My guess is that becaue the higher octane gas burns slower, theres longer > slower > burn in the cylender (insted of a faster pop) causing less pressure and > therefore less blow by gasses... This put more energy to the crank then > blowing > past my worn ot rings.... Its only got 78,000 miles on it now > > -----Original Message----- > Date: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:04:47 am > To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> > From: "Stumpi" <[email protected]> > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Fuel grades? > > Ohh an '86? Hummm I wonder why it runs better? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > paul annen <[email protected]> Sep 13 02:56PM -0400 ^ > > > i agree that at 78,000 my goldwing should be just getting broken in, but it > was neglected by previous owners (evident by the almost no existant seat, > missing mirror, cracks all through the wind screen and just general > condition... i shouldent say that it was neglected, but it was definatly > ridden hard (when i got it it had a colorado title) and sat under a tree for > a year... after letting it sit for 2 days when i start it theres a HUGE > cloud of white/.gray smoke (burning oil?) from the pipes... i believe that > it needs valve guide seals, but that may be more work then the bike is > worth... whatever the reason looking at the numbers an increase in MPG with > higher grade fuel is evident in the numbers... > > > > > > Topic: 1995 Honda Nighthawk CB 750 > Timothy Stark <[email protected]> Sep 13 11:36AM -0400 ^ > > > What I wouldn't give for a 1939 BSA M20 > > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Joji & Sini Kurian < > > > Topic: speaking of diesel bikes... > Timothy Stark <[email protected]> Sep 13 11:25AM -0400 ^ > > > Hell yeah! let's do it > > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:50 PM, [email protected] < > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. 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