Never.

I'm thinking custom made.  Kinda like the idea I have for the
removable sissy bar luggage rack I ordered (that you sent me
installation instructions for -- thanks again).

My plan is to have a grab handle similar to that, custom bent to fit
the luggage rack, and interchange with the sissy bar when it's not in
use.

Got the idea from the Ventura rack system made in New Zealand for
sport bikes.

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