On Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics > > '82 CB450SC project question(s) [10 Updates] > Nighthawk can be a touring Machine?? [4 Updates] > 1982 Nighthawk [1 Update] > nighthawk not starting [1 Update] > 1994 CB1000 - the big one [3 Updates] > bike count [3 Updates] > 1984 Nighthawk 650 Questions [2 Updates] > new rider [1 Update] > '82 CB450SC project question(s) > 357Enthusiast <[email protected]> Jan 31 01:33PM -0800 > > Hello all, > > This seems like a great group and I've really enjoyed reading some of > the back posts. This is my first post so I'm not sure how I should > include images, etc so I'll just have links for now. If anybody has > feedback on embedding photos or anything let me know. I just > purchased an '82 Nighthawk 450 that has been parked since 1986. Here > is a photo from when I first got it home: > http://s1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg596/357Enthusiast/?action=view¤t=IMAG0224-crop.jpg > > The first issue was that both sparkplugs had been broken off in the > head, so I took the head to a machine shop to get them drilled out and > retap the threads. I've pulled the cylinders off as well because the > head bolts in the middle of the motor had a lot of rust, I guess from > moisture that accumulated in the interior crevices of the engine, so > I'll be retapping the head bolt threads before reassembly. The inside > of the engine is in great shape so I just cleaned the carbon off the > pistons, head, and valves and I'm going to start reassembing the > valves into the head tonight. I'll add some photos of the bike in its > current, maximum disassembly state tonight. > > The only problem I'm dealing with right now that I'm hoping for input > on is that I don't have a key for the bike, and both replacing the > lock set, which would include a new ignition, helmet lock and gas cap, > or taking those items to a locksmith to get a key made, require > removing the helmet lock, which is screwed to a bracket that is > riveted to the frame in such a way that I can't get a screwdriver to > the screws. The issue of not being able to unlock the helmet lock > seems minor (I bet I could break it with a flat blade screw driver if > I was going the replacement route) compared to the fact that I can't > get to the screws on the backside to remove it even if I had it open. > Does anybody else with a 450 have any advice on how I can remove the > helmet lock? I'll post a photo when I get home to show how impossible > access to the screws on the back of the helmet lock are. It's really > the only truly frustrating element on what has so-far been a great > experience working on and learning this bike. > > I'm leaning more toward the replacement option because the gas cap is > missing the lock cylinder, so I'm either going to need to get a new > lock cylinder put in it or else I'll end up replacing the gas cap > anyways, which means I'll have mismatched keys, so a replacement set > is really my preferred choice if I can figure out how to get this > blasted helmet lock off. > > Thanks in advance for your advice and I promise to follow up with > photos of my work in progress. :-) > - Kevin > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:36PM -0500 > > You could take one of the other items, have a key made from it, then see if > it works the other two? My '93 750 has a common key for the tank and the > ignition, I wouldn't be surprised if the helmet lock were also shared. > > Kurt > On Jan 31, 2012 5:23 PM, "357Enthusiast" < [email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:37PM -0500 > > Also, you can take your replacement gas cap to have it rekeyed to match > when you are done. Sort about two emails, I forgot about that part. > > Kurt > > > > Kevin Green <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:16PM -0500 > > Thanks for the suggestion Kurt. The locksmith I spoke to said they couldn't > promise the key they would make from the ignition would work on the helmet > lock if I only brought in the ignition. :-/ > > I added some more photos to my album of the bike in its current state and a > couple photos of the inaccessible screws on the helmet lock. > http://s1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg596/357Enthusiast > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:23PM -0500 > > You were /probably/ told that because they can't guarantee that there > weren't separate keys for each part. I don't have a 450 but at least two > other listers have them; we'll wait and see if they chime in about how many > different keys their Nighthawk takes. > > As for getting the helmet lock off if you just want to replace it and get > the replacement rekeyed: dremel? Grinding/cutoff wheel? Looks like those > are hex headed bolts, can you not get an open ended wrench on them? > > -Kurt > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Kevin Green < > > > > Kevin Green <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:39PM -0500 > > They're round headed philips screws. Maybe I could replace them with hex > head screws though. That would be a nice solution. > > > > Joey Kelley <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:45PM -0500 > > Kurt, Kevin Et All, > I have an 82 450 - and I can confirm that the key is the > same. I'd also say that the helmet lock might not actually be keyed at > all - just looking for the right shape of key. If you get one cut to > fit the ignition, it will work in the helmet lock. > Oh and same for the gas cap :-) > -Joey > > > -- > -Joey Kelley > JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online > JoeyFixesComputers.com - Its What I Do! > JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow > > > > Kevin Green <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:49PM -0500 > > Thanks Joey. I'll make a crude attempt at "picking" the lock tonight and > see if I can't get it to open. That makes removal a lot easier for > replacement. > > - Kevin > > > > Kurt Nolte <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:51PM -0500 > > Phillips bit + appropriately sized box-end wrench. Done this many times for > pesky, fussy VW screws. > > Lots of penetrating oil, first. > > Looks good, keep it up! > Kurt > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Kevin Green < > > > > Kevin Green <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:55PM -0500 > > I looked to do that and there isn't even room for a bit. I'll let it soak > with some PB Blaster and maybe try some needle-nose pliers on the screw > head. If that doesn't work I'll take a stab at a dremel cutting wheel I > guess. > > > > Nighthawk can be a touring Machine?? > Jurisgnostic <[email protected]> Jan 31 11:38AM -0800 > > I know i've ridden my 650 nighthawk 900 miles. I haven't gone that > far on my 750 but i have every expectation it is better for that > purpose. I have a windshield, saddlebags, a tank bag, and the bike > has a longer traveling distance before empty than the 650, which was > scary short in that way. I usually go about 140 miles on the 750. I > was lucky to get 100 on the 650 > > > > > Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> Jan 31 12:39PM -0800 > > Lee, > > One member, Li I think, rode for at least a month last summer on his > 90's 750. He had it WAY over loaded and I think there is at least one > picture of him on the bike somewhere in this group. I personally ride > everyday and put about 10,000 a year on my 96, 750. On the highway > you should get at least 45 miles to the gallon on the 750, with the > 4.6 gallon tank you're good for 180 to 200 miles on a tank of gas, > which is about as far as you'd want to go. I've also toured on a 82 > 650 for 9 days, range was about 125 miles per tank of gas, not long > enough. Only change that you will have to make is get a good seat, if > you're patient you should be able to get a Corbin on eBay for about > $100. > > Having said that, I recently picked up a 1991 ST1100 for about $2,000, > after replacing the seat with a Russel for $100 it's an amazing > touring bike. However, if you're new to riding don't get the ST. > > Also, look at the Kawasaki Coucours. Again, an amazing touring bike > and you can find an older one in the $2,000 range. > > Good luck, > > Sean > > > > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:24PM -0600 > > Back when I had a 160, I rode from Phoenix to Seattle in two days with a layover in Ogden to visit a chick I 'd met in Bryce Canyon the fall school year. > I don't remember the capacity of the tank, but I made it to > Salt Lake and stopped to fill the tank. > It was the stock seat and man I remember my backside was sore! > I got into the mountains in Montana and has to stop. I remember that I spent more on a room for the night than I did on gas the whole trip (only 32cents a gallon..) > BTW that bike would cruise at 85. > Yeah, that was about top speed too. > It was me, my camping gear, and a duffle bag of clothes & toiletries. > And a few eats and drinks. > > Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless™ > > -----Original message----- > From: Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2012 20:39:22 GMT+00:00 > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk can be a touring Machine?? > > Lee, > > One member, Li I think, rode for at least a month last summer on his > 90's 750. He had it WAY over loaded and I think there is at least one > picture of him on the bike somewhere in this group. I personally ride > everyday and put about 10,000 a year on my 96, 750. On the highway > you should get at least 45 miles to the gallon on the 750, with the > 4.6 gallon tank you're good for 180 to 200 miles on a tank of gas, > which is about as far as you'd want to go. I've also toured on a 82 > 650 for 9 days, range was about 125 miles per tank of gas, not long > enough. Only change that you will have to make is get a good seat, if > you're patient you should be able to get a Corbin on eBay for about > $100. > > Having said that, I recently picked up a 1991 ST1100 for about $2,000, > after replacing the seat with a Russel for $100 it's an amazing > touring bike. However, if you're new to riding don't get the ST. > > Also, look at the Kawasaki Coucours. Again, an amazing touring bike > and you can find an older one in the $2,000 range. > > Good luck, > > Sean > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > Mack Swanson <[email protected]> Jan 31 03:38PM -0800 > > Has Li been on latley? havnt seen a post since he left Graham's. wondering about the final tally of miles and time. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:39 PM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Nighthawk can be a touring Machine?? > > Lee, > > One member, Li I think, rode for at least a month last summer on his > 90's 750. He had it WAY over loaded and I think there is at least one > picture of him on the bike somewhere in this group. I personally ride > everyday and put about 10,000 a year on my 96, 750. On the highway > you should get at least 45 miles to the gallon on the 750, with the > 4.6 gallon tank you're good for 180 to 200 miles on a tank of gas, > which is about as far as you'd want to go. I've also toured on a 82 > 650 for 9 days, range was about 125 miles per tank of gas, not long > enough. Only change that you will have to make is get a good seat, if > you're patient you should be able to get a Corbin on eBay for about > $100. > > Having said that, I recently picked up a 1991 ST1100 for about $2,000, > after replacing the seat with a Russel for $100 it's an amazing > touring bike. However, if you're new to riding don't get the ST. > > Also, look at the Kawasaki Coucours. Again, an amazing touring bike > and you can find an older one in the $2,000 range. > > Good luck, > > Sean > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > 1982 Nighthawk > Mack Swanson <[email protected]> Jan 31 03:25PM -0800 > > I wouldnt sell my 82 NH 750 for less than $2000. > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rick Schoenborn <[email protected]> > To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 12:11 PM > Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 1982 Nighthawk > > Got a chance to pick up a 1982 Nighthawk with 17,000 miles for $750. > Runs good and overall in pretty decent shape. Any advice on whether > this is a good deal or not and if this year/model is sought after? > Thanks... > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. > > > > nighthawk not starting > Jurisgnostic <[email protected]> Jan 31 03:12PM -0800 > > Battery is fully charged, but the starter makes that click like it's > not getting juice and the lights dim almost off when I hit > it...thoughts? > > > > 1994 CB1000 - the big one > Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:19PM -0500 > > I'm 5'8" and rode our son's 2006 CBR1000. It wasn't too big at all - > a very light bike, just be careful not to twitch the throttle or you > are airborne, Graham > > On Jan 15, 2012, at 10:01 AM, Brian Collett wrote: > > > > > Hawaii Sean <[email protected]> Jan 31 02:59PM -0800 > > I ask my mechanic / friend. His response - sell it and get an Honda. > > > > > Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Jan 31 06:02PM -0500 > > Graham, I think he is talking about a CB1000, is a naked bike that looks > similar to the nighthawk. Actually, we did discuss this particular bike > when I was thinking in buying it, and I think the posts should be in the > archive. Just look for them. > Javier. > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Graham Rogers > > > > bike count > MOPARJOE <[email protected]> Jan 31 12:06PM -0800 > > I tried to post some pics (again), and they don't seem to be coming > through. Can you guys give me another reminder of how to post pics on > here? Please make it step-by-step-/clear, as I always seem to have > this problem. > Thanks! Joe > > > > Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:22PM -0500 > > anywhere up to $350 but now and then you can get one for under $200, > just keep an eye on eBay > > On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Glenn Giles wrote: > > > > > Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:25PM -0500 > > two pics came through Joe, Graham > > On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:06 PM, MOPARJOE wrote: > > > > > 1984 Nighthawk 650 Questions > Cody <[email protected]> Jan 15 01:54PM -0800 > > Hello All, > > I have tried to navigate the Google groups discussion board/messages > up to this point, but am having trouble finding the info I am looking > for. If you know of a post that has the info I need in it I would love > for you to redirect me there. If not, an answer to this question would > be even better! > > I recently inherited a 1984 650 Nighthawk. I put a few hundred miles > on it late this season before storing it for the winter. The bike is > very 'cold nature-d', and generally takes between five and ten minutes > to warm up. This isn't my biggest concern, however. There is always an > excess of smoke coming from the exhaust, from start-up, pretty much > throughout the entire ride. It smells to me like an oil leak, but I am > not 100% sure. The smoke is coming from both exhaust pipes, and is > present at start up, idle when riding, and sometimes during low speed > riding. Any ideas where the smoke could be coming from? Any info would > help greatly, as I am very new to motorcycles. > > Also, I have been searching for a sissy bar and back rest for my bike, > but have been unsuccessful thus far. Any suggestions? > > Thanks for listening, > > Cody > > > > Graham Rogers <[email protected]> Jan 31 05:19PM -0500 > > how many miles has it done? > > On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Cody wrote: > > > It has done just over 20,000 miles. > > new rider > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Jan 13 06:30AM -0800 > > i just want to say hi to everybody. i recently bought a 1999 > nighthawk 750.i'm currenty getting it legal and plan to ride as soon > as possible. i dont care how cold it is in philly!! > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group nighthawk_lovers. > You can post via email. > To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. > For more options, visit this group. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en.
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