650 and 750 forks are not inter changeable thanks guys! paul To: [email protected] From: [email protected] Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 10 Topics Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 00:56:33 +0000
Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers/topics Helmet [3 Updates] Turn signals installed (pictures) [2 Updates] Favorite Saddlebags [5 Updates] Goldwing [4 Updates] Weird CL [2 Updates] Swapping engines [1 Update] Horn trouble [3 Updates] Nighthawk repairs in Kennesaw GA [1 Update] Nighthawk replacement search begins [1 Update] Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 2 Topics [3 Updates] Helmet Fred Zeller <[email protected]> Mar 11 04:59PM -0700 Hi guys, I was told yesterday at the honda dealer. That a helmet is only good for about 4 or 5 years. Because it deteriorates due to the sun. Does this make sense or is he trying to sell helmets? thank you Fred. Paul <[email protected]> Mar 11 06:34PM -0600 *Hey Fred. It kinda depends upon the materials used for the helmet.* * * *Here's a blog<http://blog.jafrum.com/2011/06/22/for-how-long-is-a-motorcycle-helmet-okay/>with some good information about motorcycle helmets. * * * *Paul** Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Mar 11 05:43PM -0700 Its a good rule of thumb. Not the end all and be all in my book. Depends on use and frequency of use ---Original Message--- From: [email protected] Sent: 3/11/2012 7:59 pm To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" <[email protected]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Helmet Hi guys, I was told yesterday at the honda dealer. That a helmet is only good for about 4 or 5 years. Because it deteriorates due to the sun. Does this make sense or is he trying to sell helmets? thank you Fred. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Turn signals installed (pictures) Paul <[email protected]> Mar 11 05:28PM -0600 *On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: * > *Looks good, I guess you're all ready for summer.* * Now if we can just get the weather to cooperate!!!!* * * *[image: Inline image 1] ** Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* "Hanghank" <[email protected]> Mar 11 06:43PM -0500 Just gota’ move “up north”: Appleton, WI (rode about 60 miles today; goin’ nowhere, doin’ nothing...........) MON 58° Thunderstorms TUE 62° Sunny WED 73° Partly Cloudy THU 65° Partly Cloudy FRI 70° Partly Cloudy SAT 67° 30% Chance of Storms From: Paul Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 6:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Turn signals installed (pictures) On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Allen Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: Looks good, I guess you're all ready for summer. Now if we can just get the weather to cooperate!!!! Favorite Saddlebags JakeD <[email protected]> Mar 11 08:15AM -0700 I currently have some crappy saddlebags that I found on ebay for a few bucks, but I would really like to upgrade this summer (especially since im planning a trip around Lake Michigan on the 750). What kind of saddlebags does everyone use? "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Mar 11 08:48AM -0700 Stock goldwing. But thats because im on a goldwing ---Original Message--- From: [email protected] Sent: 3/11/2012 11:15 am To: [email protected] Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Favorite Saddlebags I currently have some crappy saddlebags that I found on ebay for a few bucks, but I would really like to upgrade this summer (especially since im planning a trip around Lake Michigan on the 750). What kind of saddlebags does everyone use? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/4TD_QarIsyAJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. " Christy Murphy" <[email protected]> Mar 11 01:42PM -0700 I have a pair of Fastrax for my 91NH. They worked well for the first year and then the stitching started to unravel along the zipper. I had to take them to a boot repair shop and have them reinforced with some leather. If you come across something better please let me know. Brian Chandler, AZ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of JakeD Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Favorite Saddlebags I currently have some crappy saddlebags that I found on ebay for a few bucks, but I would really like to upgrade this summer (especially since im planning a trip around Lake Michigan on the 750). What kind of saddlebags does everyone use? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/nighthawk_lovers/-/4TD_QarIsyAJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Paul <[email protected]> Mar 11 04:13PM -0600 > What kind of saddlebags does everyone use? * Shortly before selling my bike to one of our NHL members I purchased this set.* http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/box_saddlebag_textile/web1005930 * ** I would do so again. Found them at CycleGear. Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* " Christy Murphy" <[email protected]> Mar 11 03:26PM -0700 You need to make sure you have enough clearance for the exhaust pipes/mufflers. I have an aftermarket 4 into 1 and the right hand bag needs to be shallower to clear the muffler. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:14 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Favorite Saddlebags On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:15 AM, JakeD <[email protected]> wrote: What kind of saddlebags does everyone use? Shortly before selling my bike to one of our NHL members I purchased this set. http://www.cyclegear.com/eng/product/box_saddlebag_textile/web1005930 I would do so again. Found them at CycleGear. <http://www.ccontario.com/images/Paul2.png> Paul LeBoutillier <http://www.hondanighthawks.net/banner-smaller.jpg> www.hondanighthawks.net <http://www.hondanighthawks.net/> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en. Goldwing surfswab <[email protected]> Mar 10 01:43PM -0800 Here's another, this time the Dragon's Tail. Camera man's also on a Wing. You can hear his pegs scraping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo May be an old man's bike, but these old men sure know how to have some fun. Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Mar 11 12:47PM -0400 I read somewhere that this guy invested a lot of money on that GL, specially in the suspension. So it is not a normal wing, although is still impressive. Javier. paul annen <[email protected]> Mar 11 03:04PM -0400 this video came up once before on here... i would love to get a good camera on a good twisty bike (aprilla 250) and have people pay me to record there trip... Paul <[email protected]> Mar 11 04:16PM -0600 *On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:43 PM, surfswab <[email protected]> wrote: * > *May be an old man's bike, but these old men sure know how to have some > fun.* * Kinda funny to hear that a Wing is an "old man's bike." I got my first full-dressed Goldwing when I was in my EARLY twenties, and here I am in my fifties and driving a cruiser. (I think I'm going backwards.) [?]** Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* Weird CL Javier Garcia <[email protected]> Mar 11 12:54PM -0400 From all the weird adds I have seen, this one really caught my eye: http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2896098140.html Paul <[email protected]> Mar 11 04:08PM -0600 *Hmmmmmm**. Do we have a "weird CL ads" catagory?** Paul LeBoutillier * * * *www.hondanighthawks.net* Swapping engines Stefano Ascari <[email protected]> Mar 11 03:45PM -0500 Is it hard to swap engines between two 650SC ? Stefano -- Web Design solutions: http://www.stefanoascari.com/ Horn trouble Pat Patterson <[email protected]> Mar 11 05:01AM -0700 It's 4:40 am here... when I get up (lets not call it morning lol) I have some things to do to my bike anyway so I'll grab my multi meter and have a look. I suspect that it's normal tho. Actually the more I read and wake up my fuzzy brain something isn't right. Your testing the 2 wires that go to the horn itself not the wires to/from the button correct? My understanding of the horn circuit is as follows. Batt 12vdc+ -------- 12v+ fuse12v+ ------- 12v+ horn12v+ ---------12v+ button(Normally open) 0v ------- 0v ground 0v ----- 0v neg side of batt. (from ground to batt it's actually frame not wires) I hope that makes seance to you. If it does and you're getting .2 anywhere I have 0v you're ok. That can be anything from meter accuracy, to static charge to feedback on the ground side with a bad ground somewhere (could be on any circuit) If you're getting .2 where I have 12v (and I have the circuit right) then you have a problem. What I can't say exactly without knowing where in my line drawing, and maybe not without actually seeing the bike. But I'll be able to make a good guess just knowing exactly where in the circuit the .2 is. for reference a car would be; batt12v+ --------12v+ fuse 12v+ --------- 12v+ Relay 0v ===---coil side-- 0v horn button 0v----0v ground. Relay 0v ===------ switched side--- 0v horn - ground. Auto horns ground internally, bike horns run a second wire back to the switch for ground. At 02:58 PM 3/10/2012, you wrote: >horn on just to die in another hour of riding because of a voltage >leak (brake fluid leaks are bad enough). Can anybody else with a 450 >check the voltage on those wires and let me know if my voltage is typical? Pat Patterson Abbotsford, BC, Canada VA7PDP 2001 PT Cruiser 83 450 Honda Nighthawk 78 F350 460/C6 on propane 71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9" {o===o} "Just add Lightness-" Colin Chapman. (1928 - 1982) Kevin Green <[email protected]> Mar 11 03:43PM -0400 Yeah, looking at the wires to the horn and not the button. The order you have for the circuit would make sense to me, with perhaps the addition of having the 12v in being relayed so it's only hot when the bike is on, but it doesn't match what I'm seeing from the wiring diagram or the readings I'm getting on the bike. I'm measuring voltage between each wire and the frame and I get 12 volts steady from one when the bike is on (0v when off) which would match your theory, but the other wire should measure 0 volts when the button is pressed if it just runs to ground. Instead I get +12v on that wire when the button is pressed. My measurements seem to match what the wiring diagram in the manual illustrates, although it doesn't illustrate the horn getting to ground directly to the frame. If the horn just used those two wires as the circuit and didn't ground directly then you would be looking at an incomplete circuit, until you pressed the button and then you would have a +12v on both wires, which doesn't give you any electrical difference to power the horn This dead horn is actually already not the original horn that was on the bike (also dead, not too surprising for 30 years old) and the horn I replaced the original with only had one connector, not two like the original did, and it definitely grounded through the frame. If I hooked up the constant 12v line it would honk continuously anytime the bike was on, and if I hooked up the 12v when the button was pressed the horn honked. I'm starting the think maybe the original horn had a relay built in, so that the horn would ignore the trickling voltage until it hit 12v-ish and then it would use the power from the 12v steady line to actually power the horn. That's pretty speculative though. Jason King <[email protected]> Mar 11 04:10PM -0400 The horn is a cool of sorts so there will be potential across it do .2 could be normal. On Mar 11, 2012 3:43 PM, "Kevin Green" <[email protected]> wrote: Nighthawk repairs in Kennesaw GA Paul Bailey <[email protected]> Mar 11 02:35PM -0400 Glenn That would be awesome! If you can send me a write up on how to do it that would be great. I can also talk with my dad who owns the bike and see if he'd be okay with having someone else fix it up. How much would it cost? Also, what are the locations you were referring to? Paul Nighthawk replacement search begins Stefano Ascari <[email protected]> Mar 11 09:30AM -0500 So, As you all know my NH died. This week I found a seller on CL that posted a NH as a project bike. I'm going to go look at it now. Shes selling it for 800. She said it runs but needs some minor work. I'm thinking, if I purchase it, between the two NH I might get a running bike going. We'll see. I'll try to take pictures and report back. Stefano -- Web Design solutions: http://www.stefanoascari.com/ Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 2 Topics Jeff Dennis <[email protected]> Mar 11 08:30AM -0400 Question? What do they mean by unstake the clutch center locknut before loosening it from the shaft? I don't want to take the Basket off just change the plates and springs. Sent from my iPhone Pat Patterson <[email protected]> Mar 11 06:53AM -0700 At 05:30 AM 3/11/2012, you wrote: >Question? What do they mean by unstake the clutch center locknut >before loosening it from the shaft? I don't want to take the Basket >off just change the plates and springs. Staking is the little tabs that get bent over to hold a locking nut in place. Depending on design you need to take a small screw driver and bend the tab back so you can undo the nut. I don't know exactly what yours looks like so I can't be more descriptive than that. Pat Patterson Abbotsford, BC, Canada VA7PDP 2001 PT Cruiser 83 450 Honda Nighthawk 78 F350 460/C6 on propane 71 Bronco 302/C4/D20 D44/9" {o===o} "Just add Lightness-" Colin Chapman. (1928 - 1982) "Allen Thomas" <[email protected]> Mar 11 02:03PM They took a punch to the lip of the nut to help lock it in place. That is what they are referencing by unstake. You have to remove the center nut, air tools help. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Dennis <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:30:10 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Digest for [email protected] - 25 Messages in 2 Topics Question? What do they mean by unstake the clutch center locknut before loosening it from the shaft? I don't want to take the Basket off just change the plates and springs. 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