If you used motorcycle oil then I'd doubt that's the problem. Keep in mind the 
tranny won't shift as well with the engine off, or even with the wheels 
stopped. Especially down shifting to 1ST. Try putting it on the center stand 
and rotate the wheel while changing gears, or double clutching. If you were 
having trouble up shifting while riding the bike then I'd guess your shift 
forks are shot, though it could be worn dogs. Keep in mind I'm just a shade 
tree guy, who didn't sleep in a Holiday Inn Express, so YMMV.
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From: Bryan Gibson <[email protected]>
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Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 09:16:52 
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Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Do I need to replace my shift forks or
 something else?

Ron,

I read through that discussion.  Being new to motorcycles, I wasn't aware 
that oil made such a huge difference--well, not for the transmission 
anyway.  I can drain and get new oil and filter, per your suggestion.  If 
this is all that it is, I'd be very happy.  I'm seldom that lucky tho.  

Thanks for your suggestion.

On Monday, April 2, 2012 9:03:06 AM UTC-5, 2006 Nighthawk wrote:
>
>  We just had a long discussion about oils. A good cheap oil to use is 
> Rotella T, and you can get it at Walmart or Advanced auto.   Honda oil is 
> pricy.  I second Kyle, betting it’s the oil because you can not use many 
> auto oils.  You may want to go back and look at some of the precious 
> discussions, or get the Rotella T.
>
> Ron
>
>  
>  ------------------------------
>  
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Kyle Munz
> *Sent:* Monday, April 02, 2012 8:27 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Do I need to replace my shift forks or 
> something else?
>  
>  
>
> Which oil did you use? If the clutch were slipping due to standard car oil 
> being used that would make shifting difficult.
>
> -Kyle 
>
>  On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Bryan Gibson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> New rider with an '85 Nighthawk CB650SC.  I bought the bike in February 
> from a guy that claims to have taken the bike out West just before he 
> decided to sell it and after getting to take it out 3 times, the 
> transmission seems to be shot.  He claimed to have done routine maintenance 
> and was nice enough to change fluids except for oil.  So I went ahead and 
> did so using recommended oil/filter.  The last day I rode it, I noticed 
> that the bike started having trouble downshifting lower than 3rd and when I 
> was lucky enough to get back down to 1st at a stop, I couldn't upshift past 
> 3rd.  The clutch seemed loose, too.  I checked the brake fluid level and 
> noticed on the clutch side that it was low and full of sediment.  I went 
> ahead and changed the brake fluid (using recommended fluid) and the clutch 
> was back to normal but I was unable to get any gears past 2nd (on center 
> stand with the engine off).  After another 10-15 min of sitting, I now only 
> have first and neutral.  I guess my first question (being a noob) should 
> be, is it bad to shift gears without the engine running?  When I shift 
> gears, the "good" gears click in, but once I try to go higher, it just 
> makes a solid "clunk" like it does if you were to try to upshift past OD. 
>  Does this sound like a shift fork, bad gear or does the entire tranny need 
> replaced???  I'd appreciate any help as I'm itching to get back to riding. 
>  (I ordered an OEM manual that isn't here yet and can work on simple things 
> but I'm afraid rebuilding anything is above my pay grade.)  
>
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