Wow, and what's wrong with David Allen Coe song? On Mar 29, 4:08 am, jeff mercier <[email protected]> wrote: > I will always feel that to not have an 'we are all in this together' > attitude is counterproductive. > might I suggest that you are looking at the wrong people? > I have hung with many hd riders down here including outlaws and such and not > gotten crap from any of them > heck even mikes cycles there in new Smyrna is owned by a guy who prefers hds > but sells a LOT of japanese bikes. > that's who I got my 650 from. > > I dunno what to tell you paul. to me what you don't like about Harleys is > what makes them appealing to me. > the sheer genius of making a motorcycle [I am only talking about the pre evo > bikes now, post evo, there is very little difference between a Harley and a > Japanese bike.] that can be changed and altered from amongst a approx. 30 yr > span. I also like the simplicity of them. pretty much anyone can rebuild a > panhead or a shovelhead. they have so few working parts and are about as > simplistic as an internal combustion engine vehicle can be. > I knew a guy a while ago who had a shovel pan, thats right, a cone motor > bottom end and a panhead top end. one of the prettiest bikes ive ever seen. > try swapping parts from two Japanese bikes designed 30 yrs apart. > old iron Harleys have their place imo as do Japanese bikes. > > you seem to be clumping all the Harley riders into one RUB category. surely > you must know that there are just as many weekend jockeys on Japanese bikes > as there are on hds. no hate for them? > before I moved down here, I rode all year round in Connecticut as did all the > guys I hung with, more than a few times, I had to stop and clear the snow > from under the frame cause the front wheel came off the ground from snow > caught under the frame again, as did the guys I rode with. > I cant stand any kind of 'my type of bike is better than yours' attitude, > which IMO Harley bashing jokes are [ I act exactly the same when 'Harley > people' talk crap about Japanese bikes] , even in jest its counterproductive. > you don't know who reads your threads and thinks its cool to behave like that > as a result. its like the perpetuation of any kind of slurs. it always hurts > more than it helps. I found you a long time before I ever posted here and I > certainly don't have the ego to think I am the only one smart enough to do it. > > then you go on to talk about how hd riders change exhausts that wouldn't > meet noise codes and aftermarket intakes that void epa restrictions? > you really don't think that most 'crotch rocket' jap bike riders do exactly > the same thing? I see it every day im on the road. heck. theres a shop in > Daytona that specializes in hot rodding Japanese bikes. > > let me give you an example of the kind of person I am. I went to the cabbage > patch a long time ago and saw the 'no ni$$ers allowed sign on the door, I > left and tell anyone wholl listen why I wont go back. it was a nice ride home > from samsula. btw cabbage path is open all year round. > I went to earthquakes while a band was there a long time ago and they were > playing david allen coe songs, I left and told anyone who would listen why it > sucked. > since earthquakes is now closed, that kind of thing works. > maybe you don't remember all the 'bikers rights' fights of the 80s with > relation to insurance, helmet laws and recognition of bikes on the road in > general but I lived it. it took EVERYONE to get things better. > > frankly imo bike bashing either way is boring and elitist. am I saying that > ive never done it? hell no but im not excusing it either. it was wrong. > do I think the weekend riders who 'play' biker on both jap and us bikes are > silly? of course but so are 250 million other people in the usa. so are you > at some things so am I at some things. that's life > sorry but theres never any use for bashing other peoples rides no matter > which side you are on. personally im not a biker or a motorcyclist. im simply > a person who enjoys motorycles more than I enjoy cars. I cant explain it, I > just feel great when im riding no matter what im riding. [prolly why im such > an aggressive rider when the bike has the power to do it and my 650 does. its > no kawi h2 but its got a 10 grand redline and I use it the way it was built > to be used.] > well to be honest, cause im quite large so I didn't enjoy the 150 cc Chinese > scooter I had before the 650 and after the Harley. all I felt most of the > time was pity for the poor bike. :) .but I loved loved loved the 125cc vespa > I had when I was 16. > > ps as far as the buffalo vs leather thing is concerned, thicker hide is > certainly better but even if you go down at 60-65, a basic riding leather > will be enough to protect you as you slide. from experience, its the trying > to make sure that you don't slide into anything with important parts of your > body that is most important. it isn't the sliding that kills riders, its the > sudden stops from sliding or not sliding at all and skipping straight to the > sudden stop. > want to have some fun reading about the old days to lighten things up a > little now? > this is an article about an old job I had in the late 70s to around > 1980http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/courant/access/967591352.html?FMT=ABS&FMT... > > > well that's my rant reply. if you don't want me to speak my mind let me know > jeff > > > ________________________________ > From: paul annen <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 1:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Where do I find a 1996 750 Starter Motor > > My comments about HD are out of jest. My biggest problem with HD has nothing > about the bike, but the bikers on them and what they do to them. I cant stand > the biker attitude. I do not consider myself a biker, i am a motorcyclist. I > dont wear black leather because thays what you do on a bike, i wear thick > buffalo because it will save my skin if i go.down on i 4 (yes, im in central > florida too, live just south of daytona and work in sanford). I dont dust off > my ride twice a year to take it to the cabbage patch (big biker attraction > durring bike week and biketoberfest for.those not in florida). I ride 83 > miles commute daily. I dont own a car, my goldwing is my only transportation > and i like.it that way. > There is absolutely nothing wrong with HD from the FACTORY. The dealer > installed add ons are the first.step in what i dont like. I chalange anybody > to go to there local harley dealer and find a single HD that is still > factory. Between "custom" exausts that woild never meet noise code, > aftermarket intakes that void epa restrictions, and the bikers that add other > aftermarket "upgrades" when they dont understand the stages involved in them > (eg, if you have a less restrictive airfilter, you need to richen your carbs > to maintain proper air/fuel mix)... > One reason i like this group is because most of us here are very lighthearted > and know how to work on there bikes, or atleast know to ask and they wont be > bashed for not knowing > On Mar 28, 2013 8:41 PM, "jeff mercier" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > - Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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