Yeah, AGMs are the ticket. It was not on the tip of my tongue, but I was an Industrial Engineer at C&D Battery (the motive and standby charger side) for several years in the mid 1990's. I remembered all the product names cited were generic, and you just looked for the cheapest of all the agm brands.
The lithium battery innovations have been fluttering since the early 90's. You can't get better performance than the AGM batteries: maybe lighter, but it's still a gamble at a huge cost. On Friday, September 19, 2014 8:11:26 AM UTC-7, yeti wrote: > > The batteries referenced above are NOT gel batteries. They are AGM. Most > people dont know the difference, but they are only similar is there > chemistry and lack of maintenance. > > Gel batteries are good for deep cycling applications, terrible for > starting. AGM is great for starting and ok with deep cycling. > > Other then that I agree with what was just said. > Btw, untill recently I was a technician for batteries plus (I moved on to > a job with more $ and less hours) and I still endorse there product. The x2 > (recently re branded as Duracell) is what I am runing in my goldwing, > aprilia, and jeep (yes, a 4.0 i6 running on a x2-30l made to fit Harleys, > what does that say about the batteries?) > On Sep 19, 2014 10:50 AM, "Phil" <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> Yeah, I think the 2 posters above are referring to gel batteries. They >> are similar names to what I got for my BMW F650, except the Honda electrics >> are 1000% better (Japanese are very good in electronics.) >> >> The lithium batteries, although I do not have a link you are talking >> about or the time required to investigate the latest and greatest, are a >> theoretical concept of quick charging lithium batteries that can be >> re-charged efficiently on momentum alone (and they are light for like >> cordless power tools.) I.e. - an efficient REAL hybrid electric motor with >> an internal gas engine as a generator primarily. It is technologically >> doable, except the battery industry is a big rip off. And where there is >> big easy money, you are not going to get overnight mom and pop innovation: >> without death and destruction for 40 years, at least. >> >> Honda electronics and a $60 gel battery will yield over 5 years reliable >> service, and you are not going to beat $12/year cost benefit. So far, all >> the lithium products I've seen have very short life, combustible, and >> expensive. I'd let others be the pioneers to find out if the products you >> are talking about are for real (but they do well for light cordless tools >> at a high price.) But here and now, Honda electronics and gel batteries are >> proven value products at cost efficient manufacturing quantities for low >> pricing. >> >> From a value engineering perspective of course, minus present value >> analysis. >> >> On Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:31:23 PM UTC-7, Javier Garcia wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> The battery on my cbr is totally gone so I am checking for a new one. I >>> want to get a sealed one, so no maintenance required, but there are so many >>> different brands and prices. so I don't really know how to make a choice. I >>> know some people here has a knowledge to give a proper advice, so I am >>> listening suggestions. >>> >>> I have seen the Lithium-Iron are supposed to be the best one can buy, >>> but they run very expensive. Are they worth the money?? >>> >>> Javier. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
