ARRGGGHHHH!!!! BEYOND FRUSTRATED

Yesterday, my son and I tried to push start the bike... It didn't work to
well, but we did actually get it started...by pushing the starter button!
Put new gas in...got it started...and my son rode it up and down the street
till it died again! It actually turned over a couple of times and then
suddenly... "click-click"...
FRUSTRATED, we pushed back into the driveway and managed to get a couple of
turn overs but it didn't start up...

So, today I went out to try again...again it turned over a few
times...then...
CLUNK-CLUNK as opposed to click-click... Turns over a couple more times...
CLUNK-CLUNK...rock the bike a bit...turns over again a few times...then ...
" CLUNK grind CLUNK click...click-click...rocked a few times...put in
first...click-click... Back to neutral...click-click... click-click... and
THAT is where we are at...again!!!

Click-click... Click-click... I am really starting to hate that
sound...click-click!

??? ??? ???



On Wednesday, July 6, 2016, Javier Garcia <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just read the entire thread and maybe you should too to retrace your
> steps. Things you should try if you haven't:
>
> - Check the voltage of your battery with the switch in the off position,
> then in the on position, then while hitting the starter button. Is the
> voltage consistent or is it dropping drastically at any of these points?
>
> - Before getting the starter out of the bike, I will suggest taking
> Glenn's advice and connecting jumper cables from a car battery (or even the
> battery of the bike once it is out) directly to the starter. If it goes
> fine it means the starter engine is good and you should worry about
> something else.
>
> - To test the solenoid, check the voltage on the battery side of the
> solenoid, it should be the same as the voltage of the battery. Then check
> the voltage when you hit the start button. There shouldn't be any drastic
> drop in the voltage there neither (at least no below ~10 volts according to
> some pages on internet).
>
> Javier.
>
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 4:20 PM, NghthawkLvr <[email protected]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>
>> When the solenoid actuates, it rotates the disk inside,
>>
>> Is 'the disk inside' inside the starter motor?
>>
>> I ask because before I had my accident I was having a problem with the
>> bike starting...
>> I would press the starter switch, and would get a clunk-ing sound...like
>> two gears getting stuck...after a couple of times, I found that if I rocked
>> the bike forward and backwards a couple of times until something in the
>> engine literally 'clicked', the starter motor would turn over and the bike
>> would start.
>>
>> So far as an update, I've tried everything here and gotten nowhere!
>> ...so...
>> Battery -> Solenoid -> Starter
>> Which could it be?
>> I tried to get the starter off today but didn't get too far...
>> Most of my tools we're stolen back in December and those two bolts are in
>> there pretty tight...simple tools I currently have just not strong enough...
>> So I'll try again tomorrow...until then...any other suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>> ~NHL~
>> On Jul 2, 2016 12:15, "Johnny Miller" <[email protected]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote:
>>
>>> This could be the heart of the matter: the solenoid makes the connection
>>> between the battery and the starter motor. The click is the solenoid
>>> pushing the disk that makes the direct connection. As EGrider suggests, try
>>> jumping directly to the starter motor connections. If the starter motor
>>> turns, then you know it's probably the electrical connection inside the
>>> solenoid.
>>>
>>> When the solenoid actuates, it rotates the disk inside, so the wear is
>>> spread out over time. If it happens to hit a good spot, the connection is
>>> made and the start happens. Next attempt might be on a bad section, so all
>>> you get is the click-click.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 25, 2016 at 4:24:48 PM UTC-4, EGrider wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may have already done this, but once when I had a bike that
>>>> wouldn't start I used jumper cables from a battery directly to the positive
>>>> and ground on the starter motor. The bike turned over, so I knew the
>>>> starter was good.
>>>>
>>>> The next suspect was therefore the starter solenoid. Fortunately, I had
>>>> a parts bike, so I swapped out the starter solenoid. The bike fired, and
>>>> the problem was fixed. If your solenoid is clicking, however, it's probably
>>>> working. See if jumper cables to the starter motor get it to turn the
>>>> engine over.
>>>>
>>>> If it turns over, it might be the connection between the solenoid and
>>>> starter motor, as you already suspect.
>>>>
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