See: http://samadhisoft.com/technical-index/rebuilding-a-cb700sc-starter-motor/ 
<http://samadhisoft.com/technical-index/rebuilding-a-cb700sc-starter-motor/>

Dennis - Now in New Zealand


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> Screen Cowl-My 85 cb700sc <x-msg://34/#group_thread_0> - 4 Updates
> Starter issue (yet again) - brushes are ground to powder. 
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> geo-hawk allan <[email protected]>: Aug 18 09:18AM -0700 
> 
> Yes as kyle stated...eBay....I just did a quick look on there as I was 
> already logged in, found a few BEAT UP ones, cracked & basically 
> junk.....all close to or over $100! Few weeks back or so ago I saw a r/w/b 
> for an 86 that looked decent, it's Gone as of looking today....
> If you have an eBay account you can do a few searches under various 
> searches & Save them by clicking the Heart (Save search) eBay will then 
> email you whenever new listings come up on eBay for whatever it is one is 
> looking for.....good luck
> -george
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> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 5:11:31 PM UTC-4, gary glick wrote:
> gary glick <[email protected]>: Aug 18 12:29PM -0400 
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> Thanks. Ordered a new one (repro). NASU on Amazon. $55
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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 12:18 PM geo-hawk allan <[email protected]>
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> Jenya Spektor <[email protected]>: Aug 18 09:56PM -0400 
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> Can you send a link? Thanks
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> gary glick <[email protected]>: Aug 18 10:11PM -0400 
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> Sorry all I have is:Amazon, sold by nasu enterprises
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> Drew Gormley <[email protected]>: Aug 18 10:18AM -0400 
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> Okay,
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> Thank you for your excellent responses and clear answers underlined. Well
> done.
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> 1: Are you holding the start button for more than 5 seconds max? (You
> should not be.) Y/N *Not really, but sometimes longer then 2 seconds, or I
> have to press it multiple times.*
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> *Please warm the bike up with the choke on full for a minute, then restart
> the bike as normal.*
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> 2. Does the bike have trouble starting (Hence over use of the start button)
> Y/N
> *Sometimes - usually after stnading for more then 2 days at a time.Get an
> AGM battery and a trickle charger. The nighthawk is a poor electrical
> design and only CHARGES your battery above 2500 rpms. IT takes 30 minutes
> of riding to recharge a low battery. This means your battery is shot and
> isn't absorbing a charge when it rides, probably due to a dead cell.
> Batteries for this bike only cost between 40 and 80 USD, so I got an AGM at
> Walmart and it just fits into the compartment. I don't use the swingarm to
> bolt it in place, because it won't move. It's snug there. Battery has
> gotten low once or twice but I just top it off on the trickle charger. I
> ride mine once a day for ten minutes minimum to prevent fuel clogging the
> idle jets.*
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> 3. Are you sure the timing and valves are all operating correctly? Y/N *Not
> sure - never worked on or checked either.*
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> *It isn't the scariest procedure to do, but eventually to be sure it isn't
> an issue you should learn to open the top end cover, and learn the
> procedure to bleed the hydraulic valves. It's not difficult. VIDEO below*
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRJeqr_5xY 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRJeqr_5xY>
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> 4. Are you sure the springs on the brushes are not adjusted too tight? Y/N 
> *The
> set I had ordered doe not seem to have any adjusters on the springs. (*
> https://www.amazon.com/Caltric-Starter-HONDA-CB650SC-Nighthawk/dp/B008AWDYRG/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=caltric+starter+kit+honda+cb650sc&qid=1597709238&sr=8-1
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> <https://www.amazon.com/Caltric-Starter-HONDA-CB650SC-Nighthawk/dp/B008AWDYRG/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=caltric+starter+kit+honda+cb650sc&qid=1597709238&sr=8-1>
> )
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> *We can assume then that you're using the button for too long. Five second
> is the maximum.*
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> 5. Is your carb completely clean and particle free? Y/N* I had cleaned them
> last autumn and synced them up in May (to the best of my abilities, which
> are not all that...)*
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> * A NIGHTHAWK is an old quad aspirated carburetor system. They require
> being cleaned probably twice a year if they aren't ridden daily. To remove
> them, pull back the airbox by unbolting the FENDER OVER THE REAR TIRE made
> of black plastic, and airbox from frame. Loosen the metal belts around the
> carb boots, intake and exhaust both. Now that it's all loosened, pour
> boiling water from a thermos over the rubber boots, front and back. This
> makes them soften for about 60 seconds, long enough to pull them off the
> back of the carbs, facing the rear tire. Repeat the boiling water onto the
> front boots next, and pull backwards on the carbs to free them. Rotate the
> carbs sideways, out and flip them over, on the left side of the bike
> (clutch lever side)The cables can be loosened, the carb can be put on a
> bench, and you can one by one take off the bowls, unscrew the jets, and
> unclog them with spray cleaner. The idle jet is the one that clogs, every
> single time, due to additives like ethanol in modern fuel. Once you clean
> the idle jets, you want to spray out all the inner passages on the carbs,
> and then reassemble the carb. You probably don't need to do anything to the
> float needles. If you did the bike would flood and not start. *
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> *Each of these steps is a step we learn as we trouble shoot our own
> bikes. You should now learn to 1. Diagnose your running bike for volts
> produced at idle and above 3000 rmps. You'll need a cheap voltmeter to do
> this.2. You might want to get some starter fluid to spray into the intake
> under the seat if your bike starts poorly to save your starter brushes on
> cold days.3. You'll need to learn carb cleaning as it's much cheaper and
> easier and enjoyable to this yourself. 4. Consider this: The nighthawk was
> engineered to be a daily driver bike. So the battery is not well charged by
> the bike system alone. A well built trickle charger can be put on the
> battery to top it off over nights in winter. I have always said that OWNING
> VINTAGE IS FIXING VINTAGEGOOD LUCK!*
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