trying to be synthetic, but I have enjoyed the exchange, there is material to untangle in multiple threads here. :)
* on concepts: looking forward to your write up! * on compiler errors: yep, they can get bad, with some experience they become better to navigate, still could definitely be an area of improvement. an howto guide on compiler errors should be much welcome. * on nimcrypto: ok, now if I can see where you come from and the gist of the criticism. maybe some of your remarks could end up in issue in the repo. how to use crypto is definitely more difficult and require special expertise than how to implement crypto. * on making random a secure call: I guess one of the advantages of current call to random is that is fast and a secure version would necessarily be slower. current one is based on some variations of xoroshiro that aims for speed and statistical quality and still would be the one to use for example in monte carlo simulation in a scientific context. whether the default is the fast or the secure one I guess it could be up to debate (and not sure I am sold on this) and an alterantive could be provided: secure_random or fast_random. pretty sure that for nim 2.0 the ship is already sailed though (it is frozen and only bugfix mode). * developer onboarding/slimming stdlib: I also would tend to prefer a fat stdlib instead of a slim one but I think the hard argument there is that there is not enough manpower currently and I think this is a lesson hard learned by core devs, so it seems a fair choice for this 2.0 iteration. the theme on trying to ship some nim distribution of libraries is something that has come up and fusion is indeed recognized as a failed experiment (unfortunately). centralizing stdlib like iface and others (e.g. pattern matching) I think is not feasible until those libraries get a decent amount of usage as nimble package (and yes, with such a young ecosystem it is hard to avoid the risk of having to rewrite because of obsolete dependencies). * on foundation: no progress that I know of. this is a topic that I think would advance better with a group of people in the same room (and some prep work). of course a new thread on that topic would not hurt. nice to hear about the expert connections, they might turn useful! thanks for the availability!
