Do what you want. ... Personally I think this is over thinking a simple
issue.
><> ... Jack


On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Manoj Srivastava <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
>        All this top posting makes it really hard to properly have a
>  chronological conversation.
>
> On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Doug Smith wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Jack wrote:
> >>>On Sun, Aug 30 2009, Curt Lundgren wrote:
> >>>> The flyer for the September LinuxFest at Watkins College is available:
> >>>> http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.pdf (150k)
> >>>> If the PDF doesn't work for you, here's a JPEG version:
> >>>> http://www.curtlundgren.com/linuxfest_sept09_flyer.jpg (900k)
>
> >>>        The flyer implies that the free in Linux applies to cost, and
> >>> not freedom. In other words, free as in beer, not as in speech.  I
> >>> think that is somewhat misleading.
>
> >> Get them in, then we can help them learn the details.  We are not
>
>         Not if they are pulled in on the wrong premise; then they only
>  get disgusted with a bait and switch.
>
> >> obfuscating the rights and privileges, but the learning curve can be
> >> overwhelming in so many ways if we hit newbies with everything at
> >> once.
>
>         If you pull in people who only are thinking about the cost, you
>  are not pulling in the right kind of people. Self selection on cost,
>  and not on freedom, prevents the kind of people who are critical to
>  free software from getting in.
>
>        There is some truth to the adage that what you get for free (as
>  in beer) is not worth much -- if the only context considered id price.
>  Free software is a movement, a community, and a cause -- all based on
>  freedom, not on low price.
>
> > I would concur with Jack.  The "free as in speech" aspect of the GPL
> > is somewhere between confusing and irrelevant for most newbies.  (and
> > a good many experienced users)
> >
> > Not that "free as in speech" is not important, but it's not something
> > new users need to know immediately.
>
>         I beg to differ. It is the only really important  part about
>  free software and Linux; otherwise, I see no advantage compared
>  to, say, MAC OSX.
>
>        The free as in beer part is something that they can be told at a
>  later date.
>
>        As a free software person, an even promoting freedom is of some
>  interest. An event promoting cheap stuff is something to avoid,
>  personally speaking.
>
>        manoj
> --
> A student who changes the course of history is probably taking an exam.
> Manoj Srivastava <[email protected]> 
> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/<http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
> >
> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B  924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C
>
> >
>

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