I spent a few hours with XCP yesterday.

All in all, I'd say that it is the slickest and easiest Xen implementation
I've ever worked on.  I was able to get it up and running and get a few
VM's installed within just a couple hours.

I ran into a few show-stopper issues, where XCP just doesn't have the same
features/ability as VMware and these were necessary features for what I do.

We have the VSphere Essentials Plus package.  This package retails for
about $4500, but I think real-world pricing is much lower than that (we
spent less than half of that.)  This gives us license for 3 hosts, up to 6
CPU sockets, vMotion, High Availability, and lots of other features we
don't even use.  We have 29 production VM's and lots of test VM's, all
running on our 3 hosts.

After working with virtualization for a few years, I would NEVER go back.

If someone is just getting started with Virtualization and has a $0 budget,
I would recommend they check our VMware's free version of ESXi or XCP.  XCP
can do a few things that you can't do with the free version of ESXi (like
vMotion).  VMware has a few advantages of its own, too, like much broader
guest operating system support and support for more than 8 vNICs (both of
which were important features for me.)

Chris

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 5:54 PM, Mark J. Bailey <[email protected]> wrote:

> http://www.xen.org/products/cloudxen.html****
>
> ** **
>
> I have used VMware for YEARS (GSX, ESXi 4 now 5). Have always known of Xen
> but really never bothered.  Of course, Xen lost favor with FOSS (Linus, et.
> al.) when Citrix picked up Xensource a few years back. Thus, the new focus
> on KVM (which is a promising hypervisor in its own right but (to me) the
> management layer ain’t there yet, even with RHEL6 – still looking forward
> to it though).  But Xen remains huge with cloud players like Amazon.****
>
> ** **
>
> So, when I saw that Xenserver had a free version, I decided to play with
> it. It was nice but restricted like the free ESXi 5.  But I caught sight of
> Xen Cloud Platform (XCP) which repackaged free Xenserver but with many
> enterprise features rolled back in.  With the recent 1.6 release of XCP,
> some pretty darn important enterprise stuff was included. In particular
> Xenmotion grabbed my attention (since the equiv in VMware, vMotion, comes
> only with the $5K+ packaging).  I know all this has always been at the pure
> Xen level, but I have a lot on my plate, and need customers to be
> self-sufficient, so a good management layer like XenCenter (or vSphere) is
> a must.****
>
> ** **
>
> Correct me please, but in practice, XCP 1.6 is doing a pretty damn good
> job for me so far. I have one client with 20 VDIs on an XCP 1.6 server and
> it is, so far, doing well. Am I missing something? And, Citrix seems to be
> doing a decent job of trying to be a good FOSS corpizen, so is there some
> reason to spend $5K+ for VMware Essentials Plus over free XCP? I know there
> are subtle differences in the way ESXi and Xen hypervisors implement
> virtualization, etc. And, some scenarios (like high I/O of heavy RDBMS
> apps) will kill VMWare the same as Xen too. But if XCP/Xen get the job done
> for $0K (both not withstanding my $ time), is there some reason I should
> only do VMware? I think Citrix+Xenserver/Xen/KVM/and even Hyper-V 3 (yeah,
> I know, M$) are going to prove to be game changers for the market dominance
> VMware has enjoyed up til now (in cost-benefit if nothing else). ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thoughts?****
>
> ** **
>
> Mark****
>
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