Hello Howard, My general results with upgrades is they are always a mixed bag. I don't care about making things look better, neater graphics, wiggling graphics etc. I care about stuff working. Usually there is a good bit fixed and another batch of stuff broke with any upgrade. I think part of the reason some of these upgrades have so many problems is a very limited set of systems they are tested on, and few (if any) are being paid to do the testing on lots of various hardware.
I tried the upgrade on the laptop. It broke very badly, and I was seeing lots of error messages from the hard drive (I guess the hammer was just a bit to much for it). That was the reason I went with the full wipe and install. At least there are no more error messages from the drive (yet). The initial upgrade effort almost worked. But grub2 routines were not done right (this was a dual boot system with two drives and several partitions). The usual upgrade routines starts with 'hold your nose....' . Dave On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 21:48 -0500, Howard White wrote: > On 09/08/2014 09:20 PM, David R. Wilson wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > Upgrade done on two computers from Ubuntu 12.04. > > > > The hard part: > > Getting wireless to work on 14.04 on the laptop. > > > > The solution: > > Shut the laptop down > > > > Bring it back up in Windows > > > > Turn wireless on > > > > Shut the laptop down > > > > Bring it back up in Linux > > > > ....... > > > > Did I ever mention the UEFI stuff and Windows are annoying? > > There was a good side to this story. The mouse didn't have to move. > > I didn't have to reboot Windows a second (or third .... ) time. > > > > That does not fix the indicator on the wireless button (F12), but if > > your using Gnome on 14.04 the airplane symbol will tell you when the > > wifi is enabled (when it is gone). > > > > I guess I will take a look at the LED indicator tomorrow. > > > > The upgrade on the desktop from Ubuntu 12.04 (quad core Asus board) went > > well. No significant problems. The upgrade on the laptop ended up > > being a wipe and reload. That was about a 700 GB restore project. > > There are times backups are worth the hassle :-). > > > > Dave > > > > > > Chris McQuistion and I have a running "fuss" over whether to do in-place > upgrades or clean installs. My experience with in-place upgrades is at > best mixed. > > Last week, I did a clean(ish) install of Ubuntu 14.04 onto a ThinkPad > R61 - well established, not bleeding edge hardware. "Clean(ish)" means > I partitioned the hard disk prior to the actual install, pre-loading the > /home partition with a copy of data from another perfectly good > (L)ubuntu system. > > Now the "glidepad" pointer and associated buttons do NOT work but the > "eraser head" pointer and its associated buttons work fine. Really? > > I know the hardware is good because I can plug in other disks with other > versions of Ubuntu (et al) [or even *GASP* Windows XP] and the glidepad > works fine. In 2014?? C'mmon MAN! > > You may note that the fine folks at RedHat (and by extension, CentOS) > tell you straight away not to even try to do an in-place upgrade from [ > RHEL | CentOS ] 5 to 6. > > I hate to say this but: > Ubuntu 6.06 for its time was damn solid > Ubuntu 8.04 was solid with a dash of niggles > Ubuntu 10.04 more niggles > Ubuntu 12.04 smack me in the face with all the user interface > BULLSHIT and more and more niggles > Ubuntu 14.04 *MORE* UI issues and this is long term support? > > Oh, and did I tell you about running the Mate UI on this laptop (a > ThinkPad T61, Ubuntu 12.04)? If I use the volume control button to > reduce the sound volume all the way down to mute, I have to log out of > my Mate session back to the [ g | l | x ] dm login menu to un-mute the > audio. WTF??! > > Oh by the way, I did install Fedora 20 on another system here. Jury > still awaiting instructions. > > Lucky for somebody that I don't use my work Windows 8.1.1.1 system more > than I do. > > Howard > > -- -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nlug-talk?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NLUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
