I find it hard to believe that:
     56,000 drives, all running at once
          that's a lot of HDD's for sure!
tell us more.
  Paul Tabo




On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I was thinking about my fileserver, running FreeNAS.  In that case,
> SMART status is preinstalled and really easy to configure, in terms of
> sending alerts.
>
> If SMART status is a reliable measure of when a drive is about to
> fail, then it's foolish not to use that to get advance notice.  Of
> course, if it's not reliable, then it's a toss-up whether configuring
> it does any good at all.  I suspect this is the reason most people
> don't bother with it.
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Chris McQuistion
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > This is a good feature IF you have software that is actively monitoring
> the
> > SMART data of your drives, sending out alerts/emails AND someone is
> paying
> > attention to those alerts/emails.
> >
> > I believe that most people are lazy and won't actually install software
> to
> > monitor their drive health, so buying drives that have a lower failure
> rate
> > is a better option for the lazy people who just want a reliable drive
> (like
> > me.)
> >
> > I'm a big fan of HGST drives and not so much of Seagate or Western
> Digital.
> >
> > My two cents...
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Tilghman Lesher <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> A hugely relevant stat, one that I consider at least as helpful as the
> >> overall drive failure rate, is the observation that the Seagate drives
> >> are more reliable in predicting their failure via SMART status.  This
> >> means we can use the prediction to know when to purchase new drives
> >> and migrate data, prior to drive failure.
> >>
> >> This is especially important when you use rotational drives to backup
> >> your production servers.  Knowing the backups are about to fail,
> >> before they fail, is quite helpful to prevent a cascade failure in
> >> your backup schema.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:15 PM, Curt Lundgren <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> > Jack, I make that mistake all the time - '1 and 2G drives' - it's hard
> >> > to
> >> > keep up.  Really.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Jack Coats <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> They have taken all the 1 and 2G drives out of service.  Replacing
> them
> >> >> with mainly 4G some 6G drives.
> >> >>
> >> >> Looks like Hitachi (or whatever it is called now) seem to have the
> >> >> reliability lead!
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Curt Lundgren <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 56,000 drives, all running at once:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-q4-2015/
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