Awesome. That is what this list is about!  And bare metal restores of linux
boxes was one of those things I always tried to avoid when I did DR tests.
:D Especially because in the healthcare field every one was a special
snowflake that had been lovingly hand crafted by the vendor. :(

Kent

On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Michael L <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'm, again, thankful to be on this email list.
>   M
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Chris McQuistion <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Thumbs up for Relax and Recover (REAR).  I just got this installed on a
>> couple of our physical services (most are virtual).  You can do a 100% bare
>> metal recovery with REAR and that is something that has always me nervous
>> about our physical servers.  The backup target can be a number of different
>> things.  It can be an attached USB drive, a remote NFS server, a remote
>> Bacula server, and lots of other options.
>>
>> Sure, we have backups of data, but to completely rebuild an OS,
>> reconfigure it and put all the data back in place is a pain in the rear on
>> the best day.  With this system, you can just reboot a working system and
>> choose Relax and Recover from the boot mode or burn a CD and boot from that
>> (which is necessary in the case of a hard drive failure or something.).
>> You can restore the entire machine pretty easily.  This makes me sleep a
>> little better knowing that our VoIP server and primary DHCP/DNS servers are
>> backed up in such a way that I can restore those entire machine in a matter
>> of minutes, rather than hours to rebuild and then restore from backups.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> P.S.  I do have to acknowledge that REAR is not the same thing as long
>> term archiving, but it could be used for that purpose.  You can even backup
>> to tape for those that are into that sort of thing...
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Kent Perrier <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you want to look at bare-metal restores, take a look at
>>> http://relax-and-recover.org/
>>>
>>> Red Hat just included this in RHEL.
>>>
>>> Kent
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 05/17/2016 05:44 PM, Michael L wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That sounds like something I would like to try.  I'm thankful for
>>>>> getting to be on this email list.
>>>>>   M
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Your original post speaks to a broad topic that gets short shrift in
>>>> most circles because backup is boring.  And try as we might, the backups we
>>>> _do_ make are never enough.
>>>>
>>>> First point, the term "backup" is ambiguous.
>>>>
>>>> Second point (to which you originally alluded), backup != archive.
>>>>
>>>> Let's take a swing at the difference.  Backups are about providing
>>>> recovery for an information system.  Archives are about replicating,
>>>> indexing and preserving data.
>>>>
>>>> So you need to ask yourself:  self, what to I expect to accomplish with
>>>> these [ backups | archives ].  There are four reasons to backup and even
>>>> more reasons to archive.
>>>>
>>>> B1 - hardware failure, and not just hard drives.
>>>> B2 - software failure, and not just operating system or applications.
>>>> B3 - security failure (can you say crypto-locker?)
>>>> B4 - human failure, and not just rm -rvf /
>>>>
>>>> Bacula is a terrific backup solution that I have never had the patience
>>>> to get to work; I am jealous of Ben and Steven Critchfield for their
>>>> abilities to get that system working.  I personally have an instance of
>>>> BackupPC running but it could use an upgrade and some verification
>>>> testing.  Neither of these are truly archives.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, but you want to do a bare metal restore?  A bare metal restore is
>>>> an operation by which one may take a backup "volume" and through the magic
>>>> of television cause a new instance of a given system to be running.
>>>> Personally for that requirement, I take images of critical systems with
>>>> Clonezilla.  A Clonezilla image allows me to create a system instance even
>>>> though I may have to overlay critical data from other backups to complete a
>>>> recovery.
>>>>
>>>> Oh wait!  You've got databases??  Add a whole 'nother layer of storing
>>>> journals and database unloads to your plan.  Databases may be complex data
>>>> storage systems that are not so easy to replicate.
>>>>
>>>> Having fun yet?
>>>>
>>>> Howard
>>>>
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