It's also used by Android BTW. That means some billion installs.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Howard Coles Jr <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:53:07 AM CDT Kent Perrier wrote:
> > https://stopdisablingselinux.com/  :D
> >
> > I can only speak to RHEL, but selinux had gotten a lot easier to set up
> > with RHEL/CentOS 7. Something gets stepped on by SELinux? Look at
> > /var/log/messages. It pretty much gives you the command to run to allow
> it
> > to work.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:39 AM, andrew mcelroy <[email protected]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > So to further expand this conversation:
> > > https://www.cnet.com/news/novell-lays-off-apparmor-programmers/
> > > http://wiki.apparmor.net/index.php/Gittutorial
> > >
> > > https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/29378/comparison-between->
> > apparmor-and-selinux
> > >
> > > grsecurity seems to have fallen out of visibility.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Howard White <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> A worthy discussion, indeed.
> > >>
> > >> I get [ bemused | frustrated ] by the "happy talk how-tos in which the
> > >> first instruction is kill off SELinux.  Is SELinux a pain?  Yes.  Can
> it
> > >> be
> > >> made to work?  Yes.  Is it effective?  I have NO idea...
> > >>
> > >> Howard
> > >>
> > >> On 03/23/2017 11:11 AM, andrew mcelroy wrote:
> > >>> Greetings NLUG,
> > >>>
> > >>> A recent debate that I am currently having is revolving around using
> SE
> > >>> Linux in an hardened environment. If anyone on this list deals with
> > >>> Government/Military/ Security Critical systems, I have a question.
> > >>>
> > >>> How wide spread is SELinux or has AppArmor won the day?
> > >>> What are your current best practice guides/resources for hardening a
> > >>> Linux server.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> Respectfully,
> > >>> Andrew McElroy
>
> May be late in the game, but if you run RHV (RedHat Virtualization, or
> RHEV 3)
> SELinux is needed to protect one Guest from the other apparently.  We're
> running in on Power8 boxes, and Intel.
> Also, on boxes that sit in a DMZ, or are internet facing, we enable
> SELinux.
> It appears to work, and its not THAT hard, you just have to be aware of it.
>
> AppArmor is what appears to be running on Linux Mint, what few of those I
> have
> running, but that's about it.
>
> anyone with a default install of Fedora will have SELinux running, I
> believe.
> I usually disable it out of the gate, so I'm hoping that's right.
>
> --
> See Ya'
> Howard Coles Jr.
> John 3:16
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