Hi Torsten, Ken's already answer some of your questions...
> so this is my first reply to a mailinglist post - I addressed it to > you (reply to from:), cc'ed the list and hope for the best. Yep, that'll work fine. > > I think it is the problem. Try adding -initialtls to inc's options, > > either by editing ~/.mh_profile or just temporarily at the command > > line where it will augment those in the mh_profile(5). > > > > inc -initialtls > > I tried that and now inc is knocking at the door but: > > inc: TLS negotiation failed: error:1408F10B:SSL > routines:ssl3_get_record:wrong version number Perhaps you're trying to establish a TLS connection on a plain-text port. As Ken said, the server often offers a TLS version on TCP port 995 in addition to the plain-text one on 110. $ egrep -w 'pop3s?' /etc/services pop3 110/tcp pop3 110/udp pop3s 995/tcp pop3s 995/udp $ > Should I insist on getting inc to fetch from the remote host? Or is > the fetchmail setup good enough? I use fetchmail(1) because when I set all this up, nmh's inc(1) couldn't talk POP3. > ... it seems that inc does not see new mail that procmail 'delivered' > into inbox - only when I us C-u M-x mh-rmail and choose the inbox > folder with 'all' do I get to see all mails, including the unread > ones. Ken's explain inc has nothing to do; procmail has done inc's job for it. There are MH-E users on the list so hopefully they can chip in with what keystrokes will ‘re-scan’ the folder so you see what procmail's delivered, if you stick with having it deliver to the nmh folder. > ... they seem to be the ghosts of the list emails that have been > sorted by procmail into their mailinglistfolders? but they show in ls > and have weight as in take space? Are they in both places - respective > listfolder and inbox? I wouldn't have thought they're leftovers from procmail. See rmm(1) for details of rmmproc and refile(1) for -link to use a hard link. ‘ls -li ,42’ will show the link count as the third word and tell you if the comma file is a hard-link to another copy of the email elsewhere. > I am reading this list across the years and the manual (rand-mh book) > plus the MH-E info file in emacs. Jerry Peek's book is very good, it's what I learnt from. The man pages also attempt to detail every option and many options have been added since Peek's book was written. -- Cheers, Ralph.