Dear NM-User community,

I have a model with 2 differential equations and I use ADVAN6 TOL=5. In 
$DES, I am using T the continuous time variable. The run converges, $COV 
is OK, and the model gives a reasonable fit. In order to compute some 
statistics which cannot be obtained analytically, I need to compute 
individual predictions based on individual POSTHOC parameters and an 
extended grid of time for interpolating the observed times. 

So I have 
1) added to my original dataset extra points regularly spaced with MDV=1. 
To give you an idea, my average observation time is 25, with a range going 
from 5 to 160. So my grid was set so that I have a dummy observation every 
1 unit of time.
2) rerun my model using $MSFI to initialize the pop parameters, with 
MAXEVAL=0 and POSTHOC options so that individual empirical Bayes estimates 
(EBE) parameters for each patient would be first re-estimated, then the 
prediction would be computed.

Then I
3)  checked that my new predictions computed from the extended dataset 
match the predictions of the original dataset at observed time points. I 
had the surprise to see that for some individuals those predictions match, 
for some others they slightly diverge, and for few others they are 
dramatically different. I checked the EBEs and they were clearly different 
between the original dataset and the one with the dummy points.
4) I decided to redo the grid with only one dummy point every 1/4 of time 
unit. The result was less dramatic, but still for most of my individuals 
the EBEs predictions were diverging from the original ones computed 
without the dummy times.

Of course the solution for me is to estimate the EBEs from the original 
dataset, export them in a table and reread them to initialize the 
parameter of my individuals using only dummy time points and no 
observations. 

This problem reminds me something that was discussed previously on 
nm-user, but I could not recover the source in the archive. 

Anyway is this something known and predictable that when adding dummy 
points with MDV=1 to your original dataset you sometimes get very 
different EBEs ? Are there cases/models/ADVAN  where the problem is likely 
to happen? Is their a way to fix it it in NONMEM other than the trick I 
used?
 
Thanks for your replies!

Kind regards,

Pascal Girard, PhD
[email protected]
Head of Modeling & Simulation - Oncology
Global Exploratory Medicine
Merck Serono S.A. ยท Geneva
Tel:  +41.22.414.3549
Cell: +41.79.508.7898



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