Dear users,
I am modeling a PK data set with sparse data (2-3 samples/ind,~250 
individuals).  When I plotted TPST vs Conc, I do have a reasonable spread of 
concentrations across the PK profile.  I started modeling (2-comp better model) 
 with FOCEI and was getting numerical difficulties and wanted to use the EM 
based methods in NM7.2  I used ITS followed by SAEM and IMP as below with an 
intention to use quick ITS run for passing better (?) initial estimates to SAEM 
and then IMP for standard errors and objective function evaluation:
$EST METHOD=ITS INTERACTION FILE=EXAMPLE1.EXT NITER=500 PRINT=5 NOABORT SIGL=4 
CTYPE=3 CITER=10 CALPHA=0.05 NOPRIOR=1 NSIG=2
$EST METHOD=SAEM INTERACTION NBURN=5000 NITER=500 PRINT=100 SEED=1556678 
ISAMPLE=2
$EST METHOD=IMP MAPITER=0 INTERACTION EONLY=1 NITER=5 ISAMPLE=3000 PRINT=1 
SIGL=8 NOPRIOR=1

I got the following for each estimation method for termination message:
ITS method- OPTIMIZATION NOT COMPLETED
SAEM- Stochastic mode: Convergence Achieved
STOCHASTIC PORTION COMPLETED
REDUCED STOCHASTIC PORTION COMPLETED
IMP- OPTIMIZATION NOT COMPLETED

My parameter estimates from SAEM make good sense to the previous reports and 
SEs from IMP are reasonable.

Questions:

1.  How important for me to increase ITS iterations to bring optimization to be 
successful for passing initial estimates to SAEM?  What to do if ITS never gets 
successful optimization after increasing iterations, it is likely given sparse 
data?

2.  Which method gives a better estimate of correlation matrix and condition 
number (calculated from Eigenvalues)SAEM or IMP?

3.  Are SEs valid from IMP as the termination message says "optimization not 
complete".  Please suggest tips for getting IMP optimization to be complete.

4.  If I continue to make changes to model, can I use IMP OBJ value similar to 
FOCEI OBJFUN value?



I appreciate your guidance and referring me to any literature regarding these 
questions.

Regards,
Ayyappa





Regards,
Ayyappa

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