Dear SoJeong Yi,

 

Sometime we cannot estimate the variances for IIV and IOV separately, although 
we have multiple dosing data within each subject.

 

At that time, the alternative could be to combine the IIV and IOV to a single 
random effect parameter, which is the way you have done.

 

In this case, the random effect parameter can be described as “random effect 
parameter reflecting both IIV and IOV”, and so on.

 

Best regards,

 

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of 이소정
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 11:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [NMusers] Describing Omega that includes both BSV and IOV 

 

Dear all,

 

Currently I’m summarizing the NONMEM estimates of population PK for writing a 
manuscript.

However, I wonder how to describe the omega which includes both between-subject 
variability and inter-occasional variability.

The code of ‘variability’ is followed below, 

 

$PK

IF(OCC.EQ.1) IOV = ETA(8)

IF(OCC.EQ.2) IOV = ETA(9)

IF(OCC.EQ.3) IOV = ETA(10)

….

KA = THETA(9) * EXP(IOV)  (--> In final model, PK parameter was estimated like 
this)

; KA = THETA(9) * EXP(ETA(4)+IOV) (--> When I used this code, there were some 
problems (boundary error, large RSE (>80%), very small estimate of BSV and so 
on) )

; KA = THETA(9) * EXP(ETA(4)) (--> when I used BSV only, the OFV is quite 
higher than upper two cases, so I thought that IOV should be considered. )

 

$OMEGA  BLOCK(1) SAME

$OMEGA  BLOCK(1) SAME

$OMEGA  BLOCK(1) 0.3

 

In this case, the individual eta was re-calculated in one subject according to 
occasion, isn’t it? 

Then, how should I describe this ‘variability’ and estimate of omega in a 
manuscript? 

(i.e., between subject variability containing inter-occasional variability? Or 
any other appropriate term?)

 

I will appreciate if someone give any advice. Thanks in advance.

 

Best regards,

SoJeong Yi

SoJeong Yi, Ph.D

Department of Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics,

Seoul National University College of Medicine and Hospital

101 Daehak-ro, Jongno-gu, Seoul 110-744, Korea

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