Hi Chiaying,
I didn’t realize that you were using D1 and setting the RATE to -2.  I 
personally haven’t coded it this way for an IV route (may others who have could 
chime in).  I’ve seen D1 being estimated as a parameter in an extravascular 
model.  My first inclination, without viewing your results in detail, is to 
provide the actual rate in the data file and remove D1.  You may just get the 
same results but at least you can rule out that the problem is due to your 
existing parameterization.

Ken

From: Chiaying Lin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:17 PM
To: Ken Luu; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [NMusers] two compartment with nonlinear elimination

Hi Ken,
It's given via iv infusion. The infusion rate (RATE) and ruraiton (DUR) are 
included in the data file. I also have defined  D1=DUR in the $PK block. There 
is something wrong?

#ID

TIME

AMT

NDV

LNDV

EVID

MDV

CMT

BW

AGE

DOSE

RATE

DUR

1

0

81.3

.

.

1

1

1

81.3

50

81.3

-2

1

1

0.25

4.8

1.568616

1

81.3

50

81.3

               .

1

1

1

18

2.890372

1

81.3

50

81.3

               .

1


2015-09-08 23:34 GMT+08:00 Ken Luu <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Chiaying,

Your concentration-time profiles seem to suggest that there’s an absorption 
phase which was not accounted for in your model/control stream.  What was the 
route of administration?

Ken

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On 
Behalf Of Chiaying Lin
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 7:57 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [NMusers] two compartment with nonlinear elimination

Dear NMusers,
I'm a NM beginner modeling for a monoclonal antibody. Below is 12 subjects's 
individual predicted plot , it seems that nonlinear elimination 
(Michaelis-Menten) model can fit the data well. However, when running the 
control stream (two compartment models with linear and non-linear elimination), 
the resulting Q THETA SE% and OMEGA SE% are quite large even thought successful 
minimization.From  the Correlation Matrix , I find that THETA (1) (VMAX) and 
THETA(2) (KM)are highly correlated (9.67E-01). Another problem is the .fit file 
can't be produced.

I have tried various error models and initial estimations, however, none had 
better improvement and often got error message (error 134 or parameter estimate 
is near its boundary). Does re-parameterization helpful ? or need to change to 
other models?

Any suggestions for solving the problems are highly appreciated.

(control stream will be send in another e-mail)

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