Dear all,

As a late entrant to this discussion, indeed there are many ways to Rome.

The dotplot function in R (lattice) could provide a similar visual output, 
though not as elegant as  the Metrum approach.The metrumrg package is not 
available on the CRAN repository any longer, but on R forge.

best wishes

Amit Taneja

Research fellow, Pharmacometrics

Dept of Pharmacokinetics, Toxicology and Targeting

University of Groningen

The Netherlands



> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [NMusers] forest plots in Xpose?
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:51:20 +0000
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> Thanks all for your replies. I will not reply to each. Just to say that of 
> course I know that forest plots come from Meta Analysis, which by the way may 
> be already familiar to clinicians.
> 
> It  has been advocated by FDA to report DDI see (Menon-Andersen D, Yu B, 
> Madabushi R, Bhattaram V, Hao W, Uppoor RS, Mehta M, Lesko L, Temple R, 
> Stockbridge N, Laughren T, Gobburu JV. Essential pharmacokinetic information 
> for drug dosage decisions: a concise visual presentation in the drug label. 
> Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2011 Sep;90(3):471-4.  ) and is suggested in Guidance 
> doc:
> http://www.fda.gov/downloads/drugs/guidancecomplianceregulatoryinformation/guidances/ucm292362.pdf
> http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AdvisoryCommittees/CommitteesMeetingMaterials/Drugs/AdvisoryCommitteeforPharmaceuticalScienceandClinicalPharmacology/UCM370535.pdf
> 
> I think it is an excellent way to communicate the results of covariate 
> analysis, rather than giving an allometric/ power equation and a value of a 
> parameter that does not speak to clinicians. I agree with Ron that it should 
> be clearly stated what is presented and there are several ways of building 
> it. In this respect the one given in the slides of Marc Gastonguay (thanks 
> Andreas) is  particularly appealing.
> 
> With best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen /  Cordialement
> 
> Pascal
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Paul Matthias Diderichsen
> Sent: 17 September 2015 09:12
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NMusers] forest plots in Xpose?
> 
> Ron, Pascal & NMUsers
> 
> On 9/17/2015 2:08, Ron Keizer wrote:
> > On a sidenote, I'm not a fan of the term "Forest plot" for these plots.
> > The "original" Forest plots show data across multiple studies (e.g. in
> > a meta-analysis), so calling it "Forest plot" could lead to confusion
> > with statisticians or clinicians.
> 
> I agree with Ron that Forest plots primarily exist in the meta analysis world.
> 
> Pascal, maybe you are looking for "tornado plots"?
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_diagram)
> 
> Here's a pointer to building a tornado plot with ggplot():
> 
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6916698/tornado-chart-diagram-with-ggplot2
> 
> --
> Paul Matthias Diderichsen, PhD
> Quantitative Solutions B.V.
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