On home routers / gateways, many ISPs will lease a device to users and that covers the cost of ongoing feature & security & performance updates and so on. The retail channel is mostly (except at the high end) a 1-time purchase with no ongoing revenue for the device maker or incentive for shipping reasonably current software. But with the FCC's upcoming cybersecurity certification program under consideration, I do wonder if that will improve the situation for consumers by pushing device makers to improve their software & ongoing support (such as for bugs/vulns)?
Jason On 10/29/23, 15:29, "Nnagain on behalf of rjmcmahon via Nnagain" <nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote: My thoughts are those that want to innovate in network devices should do the innovative work and sell their innovations to the market, then find out if the market wants those innovations by asking for payments. I find if people are unwilling to pay for something it many times means that that something isn't seen as desired. Market signals are a way in a capitalistic system to allocate resources including human resources. Asking government to step in and expropriate decades of intellectual property development or the outside plants via "type II regulation" is typically not effective and likely not even legal. Few want to do the work and have their work taken away by the State. Systems that allow this will cause investment into these activities to cease, and more importantly, it is a form of State coercion parading itself as "doing good." Nobody wants to go back to the days of Ma Bell and State controlled communications. There are existence proofs of many new Wifi & AP companies since 2015. One may look there to see how these groups were able to innovate so their products had monetary value and how device mfg became partners. Bob > We had many notables have key and prophetic things to say about the > internet's problems and future... back in 2015, > when we were fighting to keep home routers open enough to fix them. > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HT2NjsHR1bGQM0PeawYuF60B_m3Hisa3_Q1MB2aVNs4/edit?usp=sharing__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BCaF1xaItJ-TpDmrKGG4HLKkne8v8RFk8VPtvJvbGCPzppWvm-WhX1qVDgb5iDYDWv9Sfr7Gc55XSVXOywt-cZ6qpyBapjnz$ > > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HT2NjsHR1bGQM0PeawYuF60B_m3Hisa3_Q1MB2aVNs4/edit?usp=sharing__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BCaF1xaItJ-TpDmrKGG4HLKkne8v8RFk8VPtvJvbGCPzppWvm-WhX1qVDgb5iDYDWv9Sfr7Gc55XSVXOywt-cZ6qpyBapjnz$> > > > I do not think any of the contributors to this document have changed > their opinions much since then, and while I think the situation less > dire, the overall scope of these problems outlined above, wider. _______________________________________________ Nnagain mailing list Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BCaF1xaItJ-TpDmrKGG4HLKkne8v8RFk8VPtvJvbGCPzppWvm-WhX1qVDgb5iDYDWv9Sfr7Gc55XSVXOywt-cZ6qpzc2Z5hA$ <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!BCaF1xaItJ-TpDmrKGG4HLKkne8v8RFk8VPtvJvbGCPzppWvm-WhX1qVDgb5iDYDWv9Sfr7Gc55XSVXOywt-cZ6qpzc2Z5hA$> _______________________________________________ Nnagain mailing list Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain
