On May 31, 2009, at 1:30 PM, CarmineM wrote:

> Am I supposed to drag'n'drop from Salary bucket to destination buckets
> for every spending transactions recorded in the checking account, or
> am I doing something wrong?

That's exactly the type of action that defines the bucket/envelope  
method.

Let's pretend to get a clear picture of why you use buckets/envelopes  
at all:

Let's not use banks in this example, just cash, as though you were  
using real buckets.

- You bring home your pay and place all that money in a big bucket,  
labeled Salary,

- Now you have to pay all your bills & expenses from that big bucket  
of money,
     (Note: This is how regular accounting apps work)

- You decide that just pulling money from the Salary bucket as needed  
isn't a very good way to keep track,

- You get a bunch of little buckets and label them for each bill &  
expense,

- Now you start taking money from the Salary bucket and place it in  
the little buckets,

NOTE:
At this point, you now have a bucket for each bill & expense you have  
to pay during the month.  The amount in each bucket is determined by  
how much each bill & expense happens to be, or at least a good guess  
at how much you think you will need for that expense for the month.

Also note that you still have the same amount of money you originally  
had in the big bucket.  It's still your money in your possession, just  
divided into more buckets instead of just one big bucket.

Let's continue:

- As each bill needs to be paid, you take the money from the correct  
bucket and pay the bill.

- At the end of the month, all your expenses were paid and all the  
little buckets are empty.

- New month starts, you put your salary into the Salary bucket and  
repeat the above steps.

NOTE:
Obviously, once a bucket is empty, you can't spend anymore money from  
it, therefore, you cannot overspend.


The process of distributing the money in your Salary bucket into your  
expense buckets is called allocating your income.  MoneyWell can do  
this according to a plan you set up, or you can do it manually, which  
is what you were doing by drag'n'drop.

MoneyWell wants you to learn what your spending habits are so that you  
can hopefully start saving money and stop overspending.  One way to do  
this is to determine ahead of time how much you need for each expense,  
place that much money in that bucket, then don't spend any more than  
that.

Now for your unexpected bucket behavior:


> The behaviour I expect is that, upon recording a transaction that

> moves $20 from the checking account to the "Fuel" bucket, this bucket

> should show a "-$20". Indeed, it does.

> I also expect that the Salary bucket goes from 1223,85 to 1203,85 as a

> "side effect" of the above mentioned transacion. Instead, it remains

> steadily anchored to its original value.


You did not put any money into your "Fuel" bucket before you did the  
transaction.  What happened is you spent money from the bucket that  
wasn't there, so the bucket ended up with negative amount in it of -20.

The Salary didn't decline by 20 because you hadn't taken $20 from it  
and put it into the Fuel bucket.  You did do it after you recorded  
that transaction by the drag'n'drop.

That's why you are suppose to allocate(distribute) your Salary into  
your expense buckets before you pay your expenses, so that you know  
before hand how much you have to spend for each expense.  Then, when  
you record the transaction, like your Fuel, the bucket amount will go  
from $20 to zero.

If you have buckets showing negative amounts, then you've overspend  
and you need to take more money from your Salary bucket, or from any  
other bucket that still shows a positive amount.  Remember, the money  
in the buckets is money that is still in your possession, unspent,  
just like in the cash example above.  That's why you can move the  
money around from bucket to bucket by drag'n'drop.  You could even put  
it back into you Salary bucket if you want.  When a bucket shows a  
negative amount, that's money that you don't have anymore, you spent  
it, so you need to move money into it from another bucket to show how  
much cash you actually still possess.

Terry

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