Minutes: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-05-21-14.02.html Minutes (text): http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-05-21-14.02.txt Log: http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-05-21-14.02.log.html

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#ovirt: oVirt Node Weekly Meeting
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Meeting started by mburns at 14:02:29 UTC. The full logs are available
at http://ovirt.org/meetings/ovirt/2013/ovirt.2013-05-21-14.02.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* agenda  (mburns, 14:02:36)
  * 3.0.0 updates/plans  (mburns, 14:04:42)
  * future plans/features  (mburns, 14:04:49)

* Node 3.0.0 release  (mburns, 14:06:53)
  * RC spun on Friday (2013-05-17)  (mburns, 14:07:35)
  * new patches fixing compatibility with distros using python 2.6 (EL6
    and derivatives)  (mburns, 14:07:56)
  * targeting new build for Thursday (2013-05-23)  (mburns, 14:09:13)
  * systemd update fixed some issues in the beta build  (mburns,
    14:09:43)
  * ovirt-node-plugin-vdsm initial build posted as well  (mburns,
    14:10:02)
  * some issues with registration due to bugs in the engine_page logic
    (mburns, 14:10:15)
  * vdsm plugin is part of the oVirt release, so not under pressure to
    get fixed for node 3.0.0 GA  (mburns, 14:10:44)
  * f19 needs some additional patches posted  (mburns, 14:13:26)
  * may need update release for 3.0.0 to add F19 support  (mburns,
    14:13:45)
  * ovirt.debug.log will move to /var/log and be rotated (due for 3.0.0
    RC)  (mburns, 14:24:26)
  * puppet plugin will be included in 3.0.0 RC2  (mburns, 14:24:39)
  * cleanup of edit node manifests and manifest diffs will be in 3.0.0
    RC2  (mburns, 14:24:56)

* future plans/features  (mburns, 14:25:28)
  * engine has a feature to create the management network itself
    (mburns, 14:26:08)
  * this has an implicit requirement that the device being used is not a
    bridge device since engine supports bridgeless networks  (mburns,
    14:26:51)
  * this requirement currently cannot be met by ovirt-node  (mburns,
    14:27:04)
  * plan is to investigate for 3.1  (mburns, 14:27:15)
  * initial design:  make a configuration option that can be set by a
    plugin to create/not create the bridge  (mburns, 14:27:44)
  * default configuration would be to create the bridge  (mburns,
    14:28:39)
  * need to check for where we make assumption of a bridged network
    (mburns, 14:28:49)
  * also need to add a configuration for locking out the network
    management locally  (mburns, 14:29:21)
  * so that the vdsm plugin can lock it without having to depend on
    finding a bridge named ovirtmgmt  (mburns, 14:29:39)
  * use case for bridgeless management network -- a system with multiple
    nics where vms only run on the non-management nic  (mburns,
    14:30:21)
  * background discussion is on the [email protected] list  (mburns,
    14:31:12)
  * Networking  (mburns, 14:31:52)
  * somewhat related to the previous, but we may want to re-design some
    of the networking setup  (mburns, 14:32:15)
  * this is somewhat to make it more modular  (mburns, 14:32:38)
  * there is hesitation to making these changes until the NetworkManager
    bridge support is in  (mburns, 14:32:57)
  * (currently supposed to land in F19)  (mburns, 14:33:07)
  * something to consider doing if it can be done in such a way that we
    can simply replace calls with calls to NM api  (mburns, 14:33:44)
  * otherwise, i'd rather wait for this support to land in Fedora
    (mburns, 14:34:06)
  * also -- unknown if EL will get this support or not  (mburns,
    14:34:28)
  * Installation flow  (mburns, 14:35:38)
  * need to rework some of the installation flow  (mburns, 14:35:48)
  * make it more modular so that new things can be easily plugged in
    (mburns, 14:36:19)
  * things like plugins, iscsi, different flows, puppet, etc  (mburns,
    14:37:05)
  * also need to make the backend more modular and debuggable  (mburns,
    14:37:26)
  * this can probably start now and focus on modularizing and isolating
    (mburns, 14:40:27)
  * Logging  (mburns, 14:40:41)
  * need to get logging cleaner and easier to read  (mburns, 14:40:54)
  * make sure that everything we want logged gets logged  (mburns,
    14:41:11)
  * make it so that we can change logging level for additional debugging
    (mburns, 14:41:29)
  * make all components log correctly (and distinctly)  (mburns,
    14:41:59)
  * also, would be good to get things that we end up needing if certain
    areas fail  (mburns, 14:47:11)
  * for example -- if an upgrade fails, would be good to perhaps get the
    state of various things (blkid, labels, etc)  (mburns, 14:47:16)
  * it may be that we need to add a sos plugin or something  (mburns,
    14:47:23)
  * some libvirt logging seems spurious at the moment -- rbarry to work
    with libvirt/vdsm people to debug  (mburns, 14:47:40)
  * storage config  (mburns, 14:47:49)
  * we may want to investigate the work being done by the anaconda team
    with blivet  (mburns, 14:48:09)
  * perhaps some of the anaconda work for bootloaders as well  (mburns,
    14:49:46)
  * also some generic modularizing and isolating of the various
    functions  (mburns, 14:50:21)

Meeting ended at 14:51:52 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* mburns (126)
* fabiand (51)
* ovirtbot (7)
* jboggs (6)
* rbarry (3)
* papabur (1)
* jbelka (0)




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