Yes. I'm on the right track now. Now I can talk with the management with the facts and they'll love it.
Thanks all. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Micheil Smith <[email protected]>wrote: > So, that was my general rule of thumb: "if it's social or collaborative, > realtime makes sense"; > however, there are exceptions to the rule, such as C9.io. It may make > sense that you use > websockets to push updates to page state to the user. > > Eg, you could have the logs streaming back to the user, rather than > requiring the user to > reload the page to see changes. > > Given how you describe your application, I think it makes sense. Your user > probably wants > realtime feedback. > > – Micheil > > > On 12/07/2012, at 6:29 PM, Arunoda Susiripala wrote: > > > Yes. I got it. > > C9 story is just looks bit familiar to us. > > We can do a better job with websockets. > > > > I can use c9 story as a reference. Thanks. > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Tim Caswell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Just as a data point, we depend heavily on websockets for c9.io. It's > > an online IDE written in node. We need "realtime" feedback for > > breakpoint debugging sessions, terminal emulators in the browser, > > pushing various events to the browser (file change events) and > > collaborative editing. > > > > While the collaborative editing feature could be considered a social > > network, the other uses of server-generated events are just cases > > where the client needs low-latency feedback. The terminal emulator > > and breakpoint debugging sessions in particular are painfully unusable > > when the websocket connection isn't working right. > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Arunoda Susiripala > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > @Tim Yeah! I did a bad job to convince you. Thank you for posting > previous > > > post on Node. That is helpful. > > > @Patrick. I've gone through it. I was a good one for node. Thanks. > > > > > > @Micheil your point clear me out. > > > If it is a user engaging platform, real-time looks good. > > > > > > And the benefits you've shown is really helpful. > > > > > > BTW: Our products are not basically user engaging product. > > > Rather they are more developer tools like for simulating a SMS server > and > > > like that. > > > So when developers attach their apps to the cloud simulator(to test), > they > > > can see the usage and logs (search them) in our platform. > > > > > > Currently it has no realtime stuff. I was planning if we can implement > that > > > would be awesome. > > > > > > Thanks all the heads up. > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Micheil Smith < > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi Arunoda, > > >> > > >> Firstly, you need to look at your application, and what it does. If > it's > > >> user > > >> facing, like a social network, then – if it's done right – realtime > web: > > >> > > >> - increases user engagement > > >> - increases visitor pageview time (users spend more time > looking > > >> at > > >> the single page, as new data keeps coming in) > > >> - decreases bandwidth required to transmit data (99% less HTTP > > >> Request headers) > > >> > > >> Example: When geeklist first launched, they were going to have a > static > > >> home timeline, at the least minute, they decided to make that > realtime, > > >> and stream new items down to the users, this made the home timeline a > > >> buzz point on the site, and resulted in some fascinating discoveries, > > >> like: > > >> > > >> "Oh, look, Robert Scoble just signed up" > > >> > > >> For other applications, it can have lesser an effect, for instance > > >> Tastebuds.fm > > >> use it for giving users live notifications of things, such as "new > profile > > >> visitor", > > >> "new message", etc. Mixlr use it for making the comment streams on > > >> broadcasts more interactive and engaging. > > >> > > >> The biggest win with realtime web will come when the core activity is > > >> social > > >> or collaborative. > > >> > > >> Hopefully this gives some ideas. > > >> > > >> Yours, > > >> Micheil Smith > > >> -- > > >> BrandedCode.com > > >> > > >> On 12/07/2012, at 12:20 PM, Arunoda Susiripala wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi, > > >> > > > >> > This question is bit off topic. > > >> > Im from a company where we build some cloud based tools for a local > > >> > telecommunication providers. > > >> > Basically we are building developer tools which reside on the cloud. > > >> > > > >> > I need to convince my management to allocate resources for realtime > web > > >> > technologies. > > >> > Specially on Socket.IO and Some Cloud Services like Pubnub. > > >> > > > >> > I need your thoughts what are the best way to convince my upper > > >> > management. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks. > > >> > > > >> 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