I apologize in advance for offtopic in this mail-list, especially in this flamefool thread. But, I hope, some thoughts which may be useful for Node.JS CMS developers, if such exist.
2012/7/17 Stefan Scholl <[email protected]>: > Oleg Sadov <[email protected]> wrote: >> What about Plone? It's powerful & flexible Python driven CMS which use >> in some government organizations (FBI for ex.): > > Plone is cool. At 1/100 of the speed of node.js :-) I do not fully understand about this comparison -- speed for what? Plone is a CMS and Node.JS -- async. I/O framework -- absolutely different things. Comparison between Node.JS and Python-based frameworks (for ex. Pyramid or Twisted) would be more reasonable. In Internet can be found in a variety of materials about such comparisons with a very differnet results, but it's not correspond with this thread discussion. > No, really. Plone is slow as molasses. Really? Sites described at article in my prev. mail and many other sites works with a large amount of different kinds of content and large number of users. So, rumors about Plone slowness are strongly exaggerated (especially for Plone 4) -- your portal just must be properly designed and configured, as for any other platform (PHP-based -- too). Plone.org site contains many materials about programming, setting and tuning for high-load sites -- ZEO-clustering, caching, using of external engines (like Node.JS) and data-storages, and etc... > And not easy to change the layout. Do you mean sites design? In Plone you may implement any design. Many things you may do by buttons clicking and themes choosing, all other things may be done by common tools by common designers + some kind of templates hacking and programming, as in many other web-oriented solutions. > The CMS "market" is depressing. The only good looking ones are > the ones written in an inferior language: PHP :-( Many markets was died, but it's does not mean stopping of development. What can you say about web-browser market? It was died many years ago, but "browser wars" only wars becoms more violent. About popularity -- PHP solutions more popular for 5$ hosting, and Plone -- for education/scientific/government self-hosted sites. But this discussion seems like offtopic for this list -- Plone/PHP/CMS mailing lists looks more appropriate. > And when you critize the bad security record of a CMS like > Wordpress or Drupal, people tell you only the plugins are > dangerous. The main CMS is secure. Then you say that the CMS > looks a bit bare and they tell you to install plugnis ... And what is conclusion? It is consequence of general designs weakness -- for Plone developed many 3-td party products and extensions too, but Plone sites was not hacked. It's like UNIX/Linux and Windows -- the root of viruses in base OS architecture. Ufff... And finally -- I'm very sorry again for large and mostly offtopic post, but may be, if someone really interested to develop Node.JS based CMS, looking to Zope/Plone mechanics -- like a sandbox isolation, roles and permissions, etc may be helpful. > -- > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > Posting guidelines: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "nodejs" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en -- Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ Posting guidelines: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en
