to the topic: take a look at derbyjs.org :)

Am Samstag, 11. August 2012 18:21:20 UTC+2 schrieb shoshy:
>
> Nils,
>
> Thanks a lot for your quick reply. 
> I'll test it, i did see the entry_validation, but didn't know if backbone 
> likes to be used on both sides :) same goes with require.js... i'll keep 
> you updated.
>
> regarding SQL driver - is think this is a major pitfall for node.js. 
> node.js should have a native (core) , out-of-the-box generalised drivers to 
> SQL DB , just like php's PDO.
> Regarding the deep callbacks, have you used async (for flow control)  
> https://github.com/caolan/async/  , and  
> http://fennb.com/nodejs-a-giant-step-backwards  ? 
>
> thanks about the ORM tip
>
> shoshy 
>
> On Saturday, August 11, 2012 7:05:50 PM UTC+3, Nils Lattek wrote:
>>
>> Shoshy,
>>
>> thanks for your kind feedback. Yes you can just move any javascript file 
>> to the shared/js folder and adjust the file to require amdefine at the top 
>> (like in the example entry_validation file).
>> Then make sure to use the correct (relative) path on the client and 
>> server. Take a look at client/js/entry.js and server/models/entry.js
>> If you are using a Backbone.Model do not forget to require backbone on 
>> your server.
>>
>> Regarding your SQL question: I do not have a solution for you. After 
>> experimenting a little bit with MySQL using 
>> http://www.sequelizejs.com/(works with MySQL and Postgresql) and 
>> https://npmjs.org/package/mysql my code quickly turned into deep 
>> callback nesting. Especially when dealing with relationships. This made me 
>> think about that maybe NoSQL is a better fit for the Nodejs style, but I am 
>> still experimenting and looking for the opinion of other people.
>>
>> On a side note if your are using a serverside ORM framework like 
>> Sequelizejs which has its own Model-Class/Syntax you cannot use the same 
>> model on the server and client because Backbone models are created by 
>> extending Backbone.Model and Sequelize models by using sequelize.define. 
>> Thats why I was going to just share the validation logic.
>>   
>> Nils
>>
>> On Friday, August 10, 2012 10:38:29 PM UTC+2, shoshy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Nils ,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for your boilerplate, i'm new to node.js but i've been 
>>> working with backbone, we have the same boilerplate structure and bits of 
>>> code for that matter. 
>>> My question is , i need to share the SAME model of the client. Rather 
>>> it's for extending it or use it as-is. Does that mean that i can just put 
>>> the models directory from the client in the shared and use it from backbone 
>>> as is? 
>>>
>>> Also what is your suggestion for generalised SQL driver for node? (lets 
>>> say i want to connect to mysql OR to postreSQL but i don't want 2 . Like 
>>> PDO in php)
>>>
>>> Thanks again! would love to keep in touch. I'm adopting your 
>>> boilerplate. 
>>> P.S. it needs updating (express changed their commands a bit)
>>>
>>> Shoshy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 2, 2012 7:26:55 PM UTC+3, Nils Lattek wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I found it a little difficult to setup a module sharing solution, 
>>>> because of the two different module formats (AMD and CommonJS). Projects 
>>>> such as browserify are awesome, but I wanted to try it with AMD modules.
>>>>
>>>> So after a lot of googling and experimenting I created a small demo 
>>>> project which shows how to share code between backbonejs and nodejs.
>>>> I do not use it to share the complete model, because most db-modules 
>>>> (like sequelizejs or mongoose) in node have their own way of defining 
>>>> models. So you would have to merge the definition code of a backbone model 
>>>> with the one of a mongoose model.
>>>> What I tried to do is share the validation logic between the client and 
>>>> the server. This kind of code can be executed regardless of which model 
>>>> format (backbone, mongoose, sequelize) you are using.
>>>> You could also use it for other kind of modules or to share 
>>>> Constants/enums across the client and server.
>>>>
>>>> The example also shows how to setup mochajs unittesting for these 
>>>> modules.
>>>> There are still some things which could be solved better and I am 
>>>> interested in seeing more examples from other people.
>>>>
>>>> You can find it here:
>>>> https://github.com/NilsLattek/backbone-requirejs-node-boilerplate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:58:46 PM UTC+2, al-Amjad Tawfiq Isstaif 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello everybody!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to the great world of Node.js and have been playing around 
>>>>> with different modules and frameworks. However, there seems a lot of 
>>>>> methods for sharing server code with the client, and there are no default 
>>>>> way for doing that.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have come across many ideas:
>>>>>
>>>>> express-expose: this is a nice replacement for parsing JSON objects 
>>>>> rendered by the the server.
>>>>> https://github.com/visionmedia/express-expose
>>>>>
>>>>> This article exposes a hack to share backbone models on the Node 
>>>>> server, and they are trying to neat their hack with their Capsule and 
>>>>> Thoonk frameworks:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://andyet.net/blog/2011/feb/15/re-using-backbonejs-models-on-the-server-with-node/
>>>>>
>>>>> Syncrhonizing Backbone model using socket.io
>>>>> https://github.com/scttnlsn/backbone.io
>>>>>
>>>>> DNode and RPC as a method to use server methods on the client and vice 
>>>>> versa
>>>>> https://github.com/substack/dnode
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I've mixed a lot of topics, I thought sharing my confusion 
>>>>> would help to get more clarification, especially that there are a lot of 
>>>>> production projects based on Node, andI think that the community 
>>>>> certainly 
>>>>> have reached a good collection of concepts and tools for sharing code 
>>>>> between the server and client. I would be very grateful for sharing your 
>>>>> thoughts about that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Amjad
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>

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