Have I ever seen a bunch of google links that talk a lot of smack, but that 
don't really deliver anything of substance?  Why, yes I have, hahaha :D! 
 Seriously, though, I know there have been quite a few attempts over the 
years to do things like this in our browsers, but the technology has only 
caught up to the "dreams" over the last couple years.  I think it's really 
taken a massive undertaking like the V8 project to allow things like this 
to become truly viable.  Anyway, the entire concept of a clean, intuitive 
browser based "operating system" is something that traditional online 
content providers (based on link clicking ad revenue) should be positively 
petrified of.

The entire business model of the current Web is that there be an 
incomprehensible array of sites, each with incomprehensible interfaces, 
that reduces each one of us to rabid, slobbering link clickers.  From what 
I've seen of the recent crop of Google IO videos on youtube, there are some 
real efforts to try to inject some sanity in our online experiences.  But 
Google is not bigger than the entire universe of web developers who are 
each beholden to the profit motives of the corporations that they work for.

We know that the Web is an ugly mess.  The entire problem at hand is how to 
go about locating remote resources.  Currently, we type text strings into 
input boxes, and are met with thousands and millions of choices.  And even 
when we do find the "best" site to help us out, there is often very little 
help in deciphering how to navigate the thing.  But we all know how to 
navigate our own native operating systems, because we collectively have a 
decades long history of doing this.  There is just something about windows, 
icons, and folders that just "makes sense" to us in a very basic way.

Now, with this browser based OS concept in full throttle, we can start 
thinking about organizing the remote resouces that are most important to us 
in highly comprehensible ways.  Then, once the organization makes sense, we 
can actually start to reason about them, and then develop truly semantic 
interfaces (APIs) into their content.

I mean, all of Google's talk of tomorrow's cutting edge web applications is 
great and all, but if the problem of locating them persists, then it is 
really all for naught.  We really need to begin thinking about the Web at a 
higher level than just one-to-one mappings between HTTP URLs and pages of 
HTML content.


On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:17:14 PM UTC-4, Rick Waldron wrote:
>
> Dennis, 
>
> Have you ever seen this? 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=webos+erik+arvidsson
>
> -Rick
>
> On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Dennis Kane wrote:
>
> I was thinking of just responding  to this old 
> thread<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/nodejs/bEhSbsm24Y4>,
>  
> in which I talk about the browser based Desktop that I've been working on, 
> but the new thing I've been doing for the past week is so superior that I 
> thought it deserved a completely new thead.  By the way, I know this forum 
> is all about server side Javascript, but there is not really any serious 
> place one can go on the web that talks about the client side.  Besides, 
> with socket.io & websockets... I don't really make much of a distinction 
> between client and server anymore.  I just know that there's no reason to 
> do a document.getElementById() call in node :)
>
> This new thing is a totally shocking clone of OS X.  I knew I was going to 
> have to start over from the ground up, because my previous code base was so 
> sh*tty, haha!  I have really been concentrating on getting a nice, tight 
> little API that developers will positively drool over.  I don't want to 
> make this thing publicly available for many reasons... but you can check 
> out a youtube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_W19QokXk) that shows 
> it in action, and I still have my same old crappy prototype online at 
> http://luvluvluv.info.  Well, hopefully this is proof that I am able to 
> do some cool stuff, and hopefully summa yous will want to start being my 
> friend now, LOL!!!
>
> And get this... the current, uncompressed js file size is only 54kb!
>
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