wise words, well phrased, kudos, being friendly doesn't cost anything El martes, 9 de octubre de 2012 18:06:00 UTC+2, Isaac Schlueter escribió: > > Guys, be nice. Dennis is unusual, sure, but unusual isn't bad. We're > all unusual in some way. I don't see anything sociopathic or trollish > here, just a lot of excitement about a program he's writing, and > perhaps a bit of naivety regarding the best ways to go about > recruiting contributors. > > > Dennis, > > The reason you're getting no traction here is that your "I'm going to > be a larger than life superhero because of my code, which I want you > to help with, and it'll make you rich, but no, you can't see it" > matches a *very* common pattern of "crazy person", which we've all > seen before. It's a lot of talk, and no substance. It's trying to > spend credibility on credit, and that's not how credibility works. > > I'd recommend that you assume that no one will take you seriously, and > focus on overcoming that, if your goal is actually to be successful > and recruit others to your mission of whatever it is you hope to > accomplish with your technology. Of course, if your goal is to get a > little bit of attention, and wave your freak flag, well, then bravo, > you're doing a wonderful job, please carry on :) > > FWIW, I agree with most of your politics, and wish you the best of > success. You seem like a nice person. But if you want to recruit > coders, write more code, and fewer words, and share it liberally. The > revolution in software already happened, and that's the new paradigm. > You will gain more credibility if you become a part of the OSS > community before asking it for favors. > > > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 1:10 AM, Joshua Gross > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > Maybe I'll get one, too :) this doesn't seem to be going anywhere > though. > > > > > > -- Joshua Gross > > Christian / SpanDeX / BA Candidate of Computer Science, UW-Madison 2013 > > 414-377-1041 / http://www.joshisgross.com > > > > On Oct 9, 2012, at 12:04 AM, Rick Waldron > > <[email protected]<javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > Funny thing, I said much the same as you have here and got a gnarly > > chastising. > > > > -Rick > > > > On Monday, October 8, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Joshua Gross wrote: > > > > Dennis, this is a developer forum. If you want to peddle your software > and > > aren't willing to show something besides videos, you're in the wrong > place. > > > > Also I'm not going to watch a 15 minute video. You're not selling > yourself > > very well, I kindly advise you to move on so this stops clogging my > inbox :) > > > > -- Joshua Gross > > Christian / SpanDeX / BA Candidate of Computer Science, UW-Madison 2013 > > 414-377-1041 / http://www.joshisgross.com > > > > On Oct 8, 2012, at 7:12 PM, Dennis Kane <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > Why do you want the code so bad? It's not like there's any kind of > fancy > > algorithms at work. There are many many open source windowing packages > out > > there. It's not exactly rocket science, this. It's all been done many > > times before. The only difference is that this one is *my* baby! > Besides, > > you are welcome to all the code of my desktop prototype on my site at > > luvluvluv.info... it's just sitting there on the server for the taking. > > > > I am mainly using this thing as blackmail to get people to be interested > in > > being my friend. I want to do some real world community building, and > > something like this will go a long way to get a cooperative business up > and > > running. > > > > Furthermore... you do realize that asking another programmer to "just > show > > me your code" is exactly the same as asking a girl to "just show me your > > breasts", right? I mean, I have nothing against it in principle, but, > my > > god... I hardly know ye!!! > > > > My lastest work includes that rubber-band selection feature as well as > > dropping icons directly onto folder icons (with that "open folder" hover > > trick). I have also included some basic image file support. > > > > Latest video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL5r0b7WWvU > > > > On Friday, October 5, 2012 5:56:26 PM UTC-4, sotonin wrote: > > > > Code.... post it.... else Zzzz > > > > On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Dennis Kane <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > See the newest features here--> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_2DwueGLM > > > > The current version of the program now includes drag and drop > functionality > > of text files from the native desktop straight into the browser desktop > or > > (any of the subfolders). The difference between my drag and drop and all > the > > HTML5 demos that you see on the web is that the dropped files > immediately > > become icons that are integrated into the program. > > > > I will soon start working on getting multimedia icons/files working, so > > you'll be able to drop those directly in too. Then I will probably do a > > very basic kind of image editing demo that will allow you to change > > individual pixels or some such nonsense. But I don't want to get bogged > > down in the details of any particular application, because I always want > to > > stay focused on the big picture of creating a totally powerful and > intuitive > > way to organize our online lives. > > > > Anyway, I know I am quite a controversial figure here, but there should > be > > no controversy that this thing is just about ready for prime time. I > really > > do need to start getting interested people on board who would like to > help > > me push the web forward. The basic mission statement for the venture > will > > basically be that the "old web" (HTML4/version 1.0) is dead and gone. > If > > anyone calls in search of help on their Flintstone era <html> documents > with > > all of their <a href> and <div> tags laying about, we'll just point them > in > > an entirely new direction. If they still insist on doing things the old > > way, we'll just hang up on them… This thing is all about the future! > > > > We can easily develop libraries of high-level interface widgets that > people > > just need to attach event listeners to. There will be no angle brackets > in > > sight! <hand><coded><html><markup></is></so></last></millenium>! > > > > Come one, come all, for the thrill of your lives :) > > > > > > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:36:37 PM UTC-4, Dennis Kane wrote: > > > > I was thinking of just responding to this old thread, in which I talk > about > > the browser based Desktop that I've been working on, but the new thing > I've > > been doing for the past week is so superior that I thought it deserved a > > completely new thead. By the way, I know this forum is all about server > > side Javascript, but there is not really any serious place one can go on > the > > web that talks about the client side. Besides, with socket.io & > > websockets... I don't really make much of a distinction between client > and > > server anymore. I just know that there's no reason to do a > > document.getElementById() call in node :) > > > > This new thing is a totally shocking clone of OS X. I knew I was going > to > > have to start over from the ground up, because my previous code base was > so > > sh*tty, haha! I have really been concentrating on getting a nice, tight > > little API that developers will positively drool over. I don't want to > make > > this thing publicly available for many reasons... but you can check out > a > > youtube vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq_W19QokXk) that shows it > in > > action, and I still have my same old crappy prototype online at > > http://luvluvluv.info. Well, hopefully this is proof that I am able to > do > > some cool stuff, and hopefully summa yous will want to start being my > friend > > now, LOL!!! > > > > And get this... the current, uncompressed js file size is only 54kb! > > > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > > > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > > > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en > > > > -- > > Job Board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > > Posting guidelines: > > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "nodejs" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<javascript:> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] <javascript:> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/nodejs?hl=en?hl=en >
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