Thank you gents, perfectly got it now.

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:42 AM, // ravi <[email protected]> wrote:

> On May 23, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Baz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks Matt, so just to be crystal clear, if I'm using promises in my
> own code, then I happen to have a flow that depends on fs, for example, and
> since fs doesn't return or use promises, I would have to drop out of the
> promises paradigm and manage that particular part of the flow control with
> callbacks or something like asynch?
> >
>
> Q provides you mechanisms to wrap non-promise returning calls (for both
> async/blocking/callback scenarios and — this is very useful — for functions
> that return immediately as well). If you are looking at these sort of
> libraries, I also heartily recommend Flow, which has the easiest learning
> curve IMHO: https://github.com/willconant/flow-js.
>
>         —ravi
>
>
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Baz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am new to Node and trying to decide between promises, asynch and
> vanilla, there are so many good arguments for each. Mikeal, do you mind
> expanding further how using promises in your own, non-shared, code could
> hinder use of node? Do a lot of the libs that depend on asynch require you
> to use asynch as well (or make things easier if you do)?
> >
> > I think the problem with promises is that the core node libraries aren't
> implemented with promises, so if you need to do a series of e.g. fs calls
> (typical example might be open, then stat, then create a readStream from
> the fd) you wind up using async anyway, or manually coding up the nested
> callbacks, which can feel ugly once you've started using a particular flow
> control library. And then once you start using async for one thing, it just
> starts to feel natural. It just fits so perfectly with the Node ecosystem.
> >
> > In short: There's nothing wrong with the promises model (although I find
> it overly verbose), it's just that async fits better with node libraries.
> >
> > Matt.
> >
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