On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Kevin Ingwersen
<[email protected]>wrote:

> That I noticed. But isnt it possible to use v8 with autotools or similar -
> or does it really completely rely on gyp?
> I myself can’t really make myself a big fan of gyp, when python is a
> horrendus dependency o-o...
>

I agree that the python dependency is annoying, but gyp is (arguably) the
most modern and established meta-build system. Aside from the fact that V8
defines it's build in gyp, gyp is revolutionary in that it defines a module
system for building C libraries. GYP allows Node to generate files for
working with various toolchains like visual studio, and generally abstracts
a lot of difficult platform problems.

It's cute to rewrite the system with a Makefile and linking to
pre-generated V8 binary, but you're ignoring large engineering goals that
Node's build system solves.

Build systems are deceptively difficult. The depth of the problems are not
apparent until you try to manage the build of a large x-platform app like
Node.

if you're interested in learning more about this, here is a couple random
readings to get you started, including some mailing list links to what I
consider to be the state of the art: the recently canceled 'gn' project.
(gn, btw, is the proper way to work towards moving away from the python
build dependency, but even then it would be very difficult)
http://freecode.com/articles/stop-the-autoconf-insanity-why-we-need-a-new-build-system(why
autoconf needs to die, written more than a decade ago)
https://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypVsCMake
http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/dynamic-linking/
http://www.aosabook.org/en/posa/ninja.html
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/chromium-dev/87jmrxg-oDM/Uyd41uqOItsJ

https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msg/chromium-dev/LQKLbTU-PuU/8akR_c84JZ8J

Ryan

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