On May 4, 2014, at 2:57 PM, Forrest Norvell <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Francesco Mari <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> The main drawback of IRC, as far as I know, is that it's not archived. 
> Important conversations or solutions to problems are better reported in a 
> mailing list or in an issue management system.
> 
> Many of the popular IRC channels are archived at 
> http://logs.nodejs.org/channels (and a lot of good IRC information for Node 
> users is available at http://nodeirc.info/, unsurprisingly enough), but I 
> agree that chat logs aren't the most user-friendly tool for finding solutions 
> to problems.

I quite agree — though I’d also argue that neither are mailing list archives. 
Both are more timely forms of communication.

I suspect that nobody knows if or whether there are problems we’re solving, so 
this gets into generalities quickly.

I like the mailing list. It’s one of the three entry points new users find most 
easily. (StackOverflow and IRC are the others).

Both, however, suffer from a plethora of new users and an inconsistent mix of 
more experienced ones. So does the list — or at least people who don’t give 
much context for who they are and how they arrive at their answers. All of 
computing has this problem, I think. It’s a hard one to solve! That whole 
Dunning-Kruger effect — those who don’t know often don’t know how much they 
don’t know, and those that do aren’t sure they have the right answers. 

I, for one, welcome the moderation — the spam and the specific problems being 
fought are pretty simple for a human to deal with and I trust the gatekeepers 
for that as it were. The rest of our culture is up to us.

What do we want it to be?


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