On Dec 9, 2014, at 10:02 AM, Aria Stewart <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 9 Dec 2014, at 04:26, Ryan Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> How can there be "a broad community effort", how can there be "open 
>> collaboration", how can the "community step in and effectively solve the 
>> problems" if the existence of these efforts is not announced to the 
>> community--this community right here on this discussion group? I feel very 
>> out of the loop reading a thread titled "node.js and io.js reconciliation" 
>> when previously I was not aware of the existence of io.js nor the issues 
>> that prompted its creation.
>> 
> 
> Because the community around node is much, much bigger than this mailing 
> list. It's conferences and events, twitter conversations and blog posts all 
> over the web. It's IRC conversations chat on Gitter and It's conversations on 
> Reddit and Stack Overflow. Not everything happens here!
> 


Not to be combative, but surely you are not suggesting that every one of us 
jump on Twitter, Reddit, SO, IRC, Gitter, find money to attend conferences and 
events, so on? Mailing lists (and Usenet, RIP), traditionally, have worked very 
well on the Internet as a general gathering place (for occasional quick 
consensus?, if not running code)… everything need not happen here, but it would 
be nice if everything was pointed to here, or in one blessed forum/medium. Of 
course even if there is agreement on that, there may be no one person or group 
that is all-knowing and therefore capable of taking on that role. Which is the 
problem with fragmentation.

Without in any way meaning to sound resentful, I think the situation, as it is 
in other spheres of life (politics?!), is that there are tiers within the 
“community". I do not contribute to Core, I do not have the money and resources 
to attend conferences and events, etc, and so I expect to be less informed and 
have a lesser say on the future of the project. In the past, on the Internet, 
the use of mailing lists masked this to some extent, so there is the 
understandable hold out or hope that this mailing list can play a similar role.

And as has been explained, I guess this particular event is a bit complex and 
sensitive, so there is not full transparency. I do not condone the lack of 
transparency but I accept it is what it is.

        —ravi

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