Hi all, I don't know why I can't resist this troll. I've just spent half an hour writing an elaborate answer on how the whole premise is wrong, knowing that this is a known troll account. Well, I've deleted it all and will not fall for his trolling again.
(Btw I thought this list is moderated, how come his same-all troll ramblings always pass the mods?) Zlatko On Sat 22. Sep 2018 at 18:26, Michael J. Ryan <[email protected]> wrote: > Considering how many js devs fail to answer "what values evaluate to false > in JavaScript". It isn't the new features that are the problem. > > There's a combination of problems. People believing they're better > developers than they are. People who look down on js and front end > development. And those ahead to learn new things. > > JS isn't really evolving any more than Java, C#, go, python and others as > a whole in the past 20 years. And having to fight uphill to use newer > features is a pain. I'm not on the younger side of this (I'm 42)... But > I've managed to keep up. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2018, 17:14 kai zhu <[email protected]> wrote: > >> a problem i've observed in industry is that many es6 language-features >> have the unintended-consequence of incentivising incompetent >> javascript-developers at the expense of competent-ones. its generally >> difficult for many employers (even those knowledgeable in general-purpose >> programming), to discern between: >> >> a) a competent javascript employee/contractor who can get things done and >> ship products (albeit with legitimate delays), and >> b) an incompetent-one who can easily hide themselves in non-productive >> es6 busywork, and continually pushback product-integration (again with >> “legitimate” delays, until its too late). >> >> its gotten bad enough that many industry-employers no longer trust >> general-purpose-programming technical-interviews when recruiting js-devs, >> and rely almost exclusively on either a) an applicant's reputation / >> word-of-mouth for getting things done, or b) their ability to complete a >> time-consuming tech-challenge, where they must demonstrate ability to ship >> a mini-product. both methods are not scalable to meet the demand in >> industry for qualified js-devs in product-development. >> >> the only solution i can think of to this industry-problem is to hold-back >> on introducing new disruptive/unproven javascript design-patterns, and >> figuring out how to educate the industry with tightened javascript >> style-guides and existing design-patterns proven to work (more is less); >> generally, ways to enhance the current, woefully inadequate “bullsh*t >> detector” of employers so they can better identify and >> mentor/train/weed-out unqualified js-devs. >> >> kai zhu >> [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> es-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss >> > -- > Job board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ > New group rules: > https://gist.github.com/othiym23/9886289#file-moderation-policy-md > Old group rules: > https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "nodejs" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/nodejs/p81p-_FqS-s/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nodejs/CA%2BpgmMoRmv-P-8a%2B6JCj8szBcJ_32fPULL3DqrZp%2B3SgMZLTDw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nodejs/CA%2BpgmMoRmv-P-8a%2B6JCj8szBcJ_32fPULL3DqrZp%2B3SgMZLTDw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Zlatko -- Job board: http://jobs.nodejs.org/ New group rules: https://gist.github.com/othiym23/9886289#file-moderation-policy-md Old group rules: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Mailing-List-Posting-Guidelines --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nodejs" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nodejs/CADu3pbxhg6P%3DKqJRKPzpGipeNQi92f9vvm3f4g%2BgnM5m1NHHUw%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
