Sounds right to me. Thanks, Troy.


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:43 PM Troy Dawson <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 8:58 AM Troy Dawson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:13 AM Stephen Gallagher <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:06 AM Troy Dawson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> This part, I slightly disagree with. There's no strong reason to
> remove the existing packages from their system (and doing so could
> potentially break third-party software relying on it). It's enough to not
> provide a newer version. (Also the metadata size cost associated with
> adding hundreds of nodejs-* packages to the Obsoletes: list is non-trivial).
> > > >>
> > > > Hmm ... that's what I thought the goal was, to remove as many of the
> nodejs library packages as possible.
> > > > I'm ok changing that goal.
> > > > At the very least, we should remove all those nodejs libraries that
> do not install, nor build.  Unless the packager wants to bundle and fix
> them.
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you slightly misunderstood. We are *definitely* retiring those
> > > packages. So they cannot install them on F34+. I'm saying that we
> > > don't want them in fedora-obsolete-packages because there's no strong
> > > reason to forcibly remove them from systems that have them installed
> > > currently (and adding hundreds of packages to Obsoletes: would grow
> > > the repo metadata, which is already painfully large). They'll just
> > > bitrot.
> >
> > Ah, ok, I did misunderstand.  I think I know what you mean now.
> >
> > How does this sound
> >
> > * Upgrade/compatibility impact
> >     Retired nodejs libraries will have no upgrade or obsoletes.  If they
> >     were already installed on the system they will remain there.
> >
> > Or something more compact like
> >
> > * Upgrade/compatibility impact
> >    None
>
> * Upgrade/compatibility impact
>    N/A
>
> Does anyone have anything else before I start on the official
> submission process?
>
> Troy
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