Brandt We most certainly would have to have a timeline in place with this. Upon complaint of a trade, the committee would be emailed to place their votes. I can't believe we wouldn't be able to get this done in a week? I also agree that a player's value is in the eyes of the beholder and the perspective owner? The langauge would have to speak to a trade being truly lopsided. That's why 5 owners would vote. You would hope that common sense among 5 people would give a decent perspective. Good points. Tom
--- On Tue, 8/3/10, Brandt Mathews <[email protected]> wrote: From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]> Subject: RE: $ 000.02 To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 9:49 AM I would vote to keep the ability to block trades. However I would put a 10 day max to put this to review. I really dont want to see this thing again about bringing up old trades for review. I agree and disagree with Robert on this issue. Voting down trades is going to piss off people but thier has to be some sort of law so certain teams are not taken advantage of. What everyone also needs to remember is there will always be lopsided trades because what one person values might be different than what another values. Pertaining to my trade, I put a lot of value on Porcello. I viewed his ceiling as very high. How many 20 year old pitchers make the mlb club? You make the club because you are very good pitcher with good potential to win. I don't know that I would have even made this trade a year ago because of all the miles put on CC's arm. That really bothers me but I made the trade because I needed the pitching sooner than later. What are the averages that 2 years down the road that CC will have an injury and porcello will start believing in his talent? I would say better than average because of CC's massive overusage the past few years. Plus anyone that knows prospects knows how good Jennings is projected to be. B > From: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:25:35 +0000 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: $ 000.02 > > If most of you guys want to it that way but must be honesty I still have > great concerns that it will still cause problems some where down the line. > Question Lou and others who are in other leagues how to they handle trades? > Wondering how many even check trades and maybe something better?? If we use > this idea then anyone on that committee doesnt get to vote? > > Tom I would love your help with rules! > > ROBERT > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: Tom Vanderlaan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: $ 000.02 > Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 10:16:33 -0400 > > Excellant, fair idea...Lou Chesapeake > > ---- Tom Vanderlaan <[email protected]> wrote: > > How about an exec committee with 5 guys. > > If a trade doesn't seem fair it is deemed as such. > > The committee is called to cast their vote; if 3 of the 5 vote that it is > > not a fair trade then the deal goes back to the teams for them to tweak? I > > bet you would only have 1 or 2 a year that might have to be voted on? The > > 5 guys could even be somewhat rotated on an annual basis as to not get a > > good old boys club;-) > > Just a thought? > > I also would be happy to help go through the rules if you would like some > > help? > > Tom > > DM Dragons > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Bob Oakman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > From: Bob Oakman <[email protected]> > > Subject: $ 000.02 > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 8:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correction; "you Jack and Bob" > > was truthfully "you Jack and John (A)" > > > > but since we're doing 2cents , Bob Oakman Oakland Buzzards says; > > I thought Ohio was taking a huge gamble on Porcello. I would not have done > > it but overall not an agregious trade.I've seen similar trades here in > > NOMBL. > > research proves Diaz a reliable hitter with history and a future , > > and Dukes is ... Dukes. > > > > tip of the cap to VA Dublin Ohio and Ports for dealing with this so well > > and so swiftly > > > > but I think this 'no trade objection' thing could go in a bad direction ... > > could we put it to vote? > > > > Bob Oakman > > Oakland Buzzards > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 8/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > Subject: trades > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 1:17 PM > > > > > > Wrong rules say/and I have said more than once comments should be made in > > private and It was done immediately; the same day the trade was > > announced!! Some managers dont like everyone knowing who they are for > > reasons just like this. We have had several managers quit because of these > > types of group emails going back and forth, one was brand new. If > > someone else wants the job of finding managers everytime someone quits then > > fine we can send out to everyone. > > > > As for someone saying more should be like that this one its just 1 person's > > 2 cents worth just as you, Jack and Bob did. This trade was never > > approved or disapproved. There was no comment from me either way as I > > didnt and still dont want to go down that/this path. I have talked to two > > others that also agree for C.C one of best starters in MLB and 2 great > > years more should have been given. As for something being said immediately > > the Diaz trade was announced with the last file I sent out and no one said > > a word until now. > > > > I havent said anything either way just that once we go down that path every > > trade then becomes subject to protest. I did ask 1 manager his thoughts > > and he gave me his thought off the record but did say I got into > > this just for FUN and that is how I am going to keep it. I am trying hard > > to keep it that way but ............ > > > > Carl had email ready to send out his reply but I asked him not too as I > > DONT WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD! Carl did reserve the right to change his > > mind. Guys I am thinking about just taking out the rules for protesting > > trades all together????? > > > > I have asked Lou for suggestions on what too do starting Sunday onward. I > > would like everyone that has send me any suggestions on how to proceed in > > furture > > > > > > ROBERT > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: file andD trade > > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:02 -0700 > > > > > > DO NOT bring up the CC trade and compare these two. thats rediculous. whats > > next revoking a trade�i made last year? If someone feels that a trade is > > unfair something should be said immediatly to the centire league and I > > heard nothing about that trade. In fact I remember reading an email > > commending that the trade was made and that more should be made similar to > > the model of�the CC trade. > > � > > � > > Brandt > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Do we really want to get into this trading thing????� I had 2 managers > > complain about the C.C. trade and I myself didnt think enough was given for > > this pitcher as he had great season both last and this year.� However I > > went ahead and let the trade go through.� So if we are going to redo this > > trade the C.C Sabathia trade will also have to be reworked. > > > > > > ROBERT > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: file and trade > > Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:25:52 EDT > > > > > > HI > > � > > As a RESPONSIBLE MANAGER of the NOMBL�and as one of the League's Presidents > > - I object to this trade. > > � > > DIAZ is�a guy who is hitting well in MLB� > > Dukes who was cut by the Nationals at the end of the spring training and > > has only been able to secure a roster spot on an independent team. > > � > > Did this trade involve the move of draft picks as well such as VIR 2 for > > POR 10. > > � > > If so - then I would think it would be fair.� DIAZ ia a quality OF batter.� > > Dukes isn't. > > � > > Jack Howard, > > President - NOMBL > > � > > > > In a message dated 7/31/2010 9:16:51 A.M. 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