Lets have a GM meeting this year to go over rules sometime in maybe January. I am all for a committee and will volunteer for it. The ten day rule should be in place so there is no back logging of trades. If anyone needs any trading advice or drafting advice please just ask a GM for it. I know some of the new teams have trouble knowing the value of players in this league so if they need advice just ask another GM not involved in the trade. Rebuilding is not hard but takes time just look at Oakland who rebuilt to be at top of their division this year. John
________________________________ From: Tom Vanderlaan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 9:17:00 AM Subject: Re: $ 000.02-correction Correct. We would have to have some language whereby a trade made, by someone on the committee of 5 would not be allowed. The commish could maybe step in. The last scenario would be 2 committee members trading and we would have to have one person back up in place. It will alll work out. I will just throw out that we take a hard, hard look at all of our rules in the future and that trading is just one piece where we will need to get the language all figured out and try and get all the different scenarios covered. It can be done, it will just take some time. I as I indicated before am willing to work on this, and keep the whole league in the loop when it comes to possible changes. Robert, I have some thoughts on how this process could work in which it would be fair to all involved. This is good stuff; this is how league's become great(owners willing to communicate, question, and take ownership). We will get stronger because of this:-) Tom DM Dragons --- On Tue, 8/3/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: $ 000.02-correction >To: [email protected] >Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 10:15 AM > > >If we use this idea then anyone on that committee involved with trade in >question doesn't get to vote? > >ROBERT > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: $ 000.02 >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 14:25:35 GMT > >If most of you guys want to it that way but must be honesty I still have great >concerns that it will still cause problems some where down the line. Question >Lou and others who are in other leagues how to they handle trades? Wondering >how many even check trades and maybe something better?? If we use this idea >then anyone on that committee doesn't get to vote? > > >Tom I would love your help with rules! > >ROBERT > >---------- Original Message ---------- >From: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Cc: Tom Vanderlaan <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: $ 000.02 >Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 10:16:33 -0400 > >Excellant, fair idea...Lou Chesapeake > >---- Tom Vanderlaan <[email protected]> wrote: >> How about an exec committee with 5 guys. >> If a trade doesn't seem fair it is deemed as such. >> The committee is called to cast their�vote;� if 3 of the 5 vote that it is >> not >>a fair trade then the deal goes back to the teams for them to tweak?� I bet >>you >>would only have 1 or 2 a year that might have to be voted on?� The 5 guys >>could >>even be somewhat rotated on an annual basis as to not get a good old boys >>club;-) >> Just a thought? >> I also would be happy to help go through the rules if you would like some >help? >> Tom >> DM Dragons >> >> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Bob Oakman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: Bob Oakman <[email protected]> >> Subject: $ 000.02 >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 8:02 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> correction;� "you Jack and Bob" >> was truthfully "you Jack and John (A)" >> � >> but since we're doing 2cents , Bob Oakman Oakland Buzzards says; >> I thought Ohio was taking a huge gamble on Porcello.� I would not have done >> it >>but overall not an agregious trade.I've seen similar trades here in NOMBL. >> research proves Diaz�a reliable hitter with history and a future , and�Dukes >>is�... Dukes. >> � >> tip of the cap to VA�Dublin Ohio and Ports for dealing with this so well >> and >>so swiftly >> � >> but I think this 'no trade objection' thing could go in a bad direction ... >> could we put it to vote? >> >> Bob Oakman >> Oakland Buzzards >> � >> � >> � >> >> --- On Mon, 8/2/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Subject: trades >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 1:17 PM >> >> >> Wrong�rules say/and I have said more than once�comments should be made in >>private and It�was done immediately; �the same day the trade was announced!!� >>Some managers dont like everyone knowing who they are for reasons just like >>this.�We have had several managers quit because of�these types of �group >>emails >>going back and forth,� one was brand new.� If someone else wants the job of >>finding managers everytime someone quits then fine�we can send out to >>everyone.�� >> >> As for someone saying more should be like that this one its just 1 person's >> 2 >>cents worth just as you, Jack and Bob did.��� This trade was never approved >>or >>disapproved.� There was no comment from me either way as I didnt and still >>dont >>want to go down that/this path.� I have talked to two others that also >>agree�for >>C.C one of best starters in MLB and 2 great years more should have been >>given.� >>As for something being said immediately the Diaz trade was announced with the >>last file I sent out and no one said a word until now.�� >> >> I havent said�anything either way just that once we go down that path every >>trade then becomes subject to protest.� I did ask 1 manager his thoughts and >>he >>gave me his thought off the record but did say I got into this�just�for FUN >>and >>that is how I am going to keep it.� I am trying hard to keep it that way but >>............ >> >> Carl had email ready to send out his reply but I asked him not too as I DONT >>WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD!� Carl did reserve the right to change his mind.� >>Guys >>I am thinking about just taking out the rules for protesting trades all >>together?????�� >> >> I have asked Lou for suggestions on what too do starting Sunday onward.� I >>would like everyone that has�send me any suggestions on how to proceed in >>furture >> >> >> ROBERT >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: Brandt Mathews <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: file andD trade >> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 16:57:02 -0700 >> >> >> DO NOT bring up the CC trade and compare these two. thats rediculous. whats >>next revoking a trade�i made last year? If someone feels that a trade is >>unfair >>something should be said immediatly to the centire league and I heard nothing >>about that trade. In fact I remember reading an email commending that the >>trade >>was made and that more should be made similar to the model of�the CC trade. >> � >> � >> Brandt >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:40 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >> Do we really want to get into this trading thing????� I had 2 managers >> complain >>about the C.C. trade and I myself didnt think enough was given for this >>pitcher >>as he had great season both last and this year.� However I went ahead and let >>the trade go through.� So if we are going to redo this trade the C.C Sabathia >>trade will also have to be reworked. >> >> >> ROBERT >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: file and trade >> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 13:25:52 EDT >> >> >> HI >> � >> As a RESPONSIBLE MANAGER of the NOMBL�and as one of the League's Presidents >> - I >>object to this trade. >> � >> DIAZ is�a guy who is hitting well in MLB� >> Dukes who was cut by the Nationals at the end of the spring training and has >>only been able to secure a roster spot on an independent team. >> � >> Did this trade involve the move of draft picks as well such as VIR 2 for POR >>10. >> � >> If so - then I would think it would be fair.� DIAZ ia a quality OF batter.� >>Dukes isn't. >> � >> Jack Howard, >> President - NOMBL >> � >> >> In a message dated 7/31/2010 9:16:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >> The Portsmouth Red Storm confirm the trade of Matt Diaz to the Virginia >> Squires >>for Elijah Dukes. >> � >> Thanks, >> � >> Carl Larsen >> � >> � >> � >> > From: [email protected] >> > Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:47:11 +0000 >> > To: [email protected] >> > Subject: file and trade >> > >> > here is everything I have and the deadline for having games in is Sat and >>missing tons of games! >> > >> > VA sends Elijah Dukes to Portsmouth for Matt Diaz . >> > >> > Anyone looking to make deal before the deadline please advise ASAP. >> > >> > ROBERT >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ >> > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! >> > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"NOMBL" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nombl?hl=en. >> > >> >> �-- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"NOMBL" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nombl?hl=en. >> >> �-- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>"NOMBL" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>[email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >>http://groups.google.com/group/nombl?hl=en. >> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> SHOCKING: 2010 Honda Civic for $1,732.09 >> SPECIAL REPORT: High ticket items are being auctioned for an incredible 90% >>off! 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