AGAIN this is closed so ALL parties let's move on. thank you for your cooperstion in this matter,ROBERT
---------- Original Message ---------- From: Robert Schwartz <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 09:40:31 -0800 Listen al ye, Linsecum has not been taken off the market and all proposals are in process of being finalized. I have never indicated that he has been taken off the market . Obviousily, because I made a trade with Tim Hudson some jumped to the conclusion Linsecum had been withdrawn. From email below Not as big a deal, just something I will remember before putting together a trade package. I have decided I am not too keen on offering players in trade to managers like you and the new guy that never answer. Not a big deal, no rule against you guys being rude. But maybe other people get upset when people are rude. Not me, I don't care. I just remember and think twice before making offers. And I do not appreciate blackmail. The offer from Ray / BKN is in process of being reviewed. I have received a total of 9 multiplayer offers. To review in detail, some offer have up to 8-9 players I have to study the specifics of all offers and specifically those meeting the paremeters that I believe are in those offers which will be in at the end. I do have experience with many formats of leagues. I will say that typically leagues who have in their rules the right to protest a trade probably never would do so without going through a league commish an/or committee prior to coming to the public view. If this was a mistake so be it, mistakes happen. From what I have observed, I believe this league does have this but instead specific responses were made to the league in whole ( not a goood history of this not causing problems). In response to Ray's indicated response above ( highlighted in Yellow above) I'm not sure if my response was rude or not, probably it is to those not involved as a number of managers have been very nice. But guys, I'm new, made 2 deals and involved in a big deal and seen multiple emails saying both deals were very questionable. Am I supposed to think this is normal. I have 13 leagues that I'm in plus a long history of multiple sports leagues with up to 30 managers and actually some of them were in person clubs. The purpose usually of having the right to protest a trade is that of a "sham deal" I hardly can remember where a sham deal could be in place where the new member is trading the best asset in a deal. In conclusion, it would be best to protest to Robert or if one wants to know if Linsecum is off the market just ask To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 From: [email protected] Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 11:37:18 -0500 Sometimes we accidentally respond to an email and it goes to the whole group instead of you. Very annoying. We don't mean to do it and we do not need to be scolded for it. Not that we care, it humors me. You are wrong. The rules say we can protest a trade and it even says we can bring it up to a league vote. In order to do this public discussion would be allowed. Personally, I have no problem with the trade made. It did not involve Lincecum. But I was surprised Lincecem was no longer available because the new guy did not let me know Lincecum was off the market when he said he would let me know. I did not know. Not as big a deal, just something I will remember before putting together a trade package. I have decided I am not too keen on offering players in trade to managers like you and the new guy that never answer. Not a big deal, no rule against you guys being rude. But maybe other people get upset when people are rude. Not me, I don't care. I just remember and think twice before making offers. And I do not appreciate blackmail. And whatever happened to all trades by new guys being reviewed by YOU for set period of time. We had this RULE for a reason. Is blackmailing the league over quitting all we have to do to be exempt from a rule? It was a good rule and you handled it well. This is what happens when we ignore these rules. You sent out emails saying such when people joined. It was good. If you are too busy someone else could do it, delegate. As for Penn and VA trade, I just said I was just curious and it is no big deal, but let me see if I can understand this trade. I was ORIGINALLY trying to help you with your excel sheet you asked to check. I do not really care that you traded for a better pick a player that was then dropped. I make stupid trades all the time. And you want 19 people to send you individual emails concerning the misprint of trade in your excel. Looking it up on web site as well? Man that is TOO MUCH work to help you correct your excel sheet. We have lives too. Our work is important too. I am done trying to help check this stuff. I did not appreciate Nick's rude response when I tried helping with the new guys roster and I wrote "curious" about the 1/17 trade you sent out in excel sheet cause you asked us to check it. I do not like this web site. My feelings are my feelings and unless they agree with you they are against the rules? Are you kidding me? I do not like this web site and you want money, then I get to say I do not like this web site. I hate it. We never had these problems with the other web site. Howard did a great job. We could preload our picks which helped me cause I work 60-70 hours a week. We could chat with each other and no one was so sensitive over what we said, we kidded and we talked and we had fun. Right now, this is not fun. I don't sweat the small stuff. I am not going threaten to quit just cause I don't like something, my skin is not so thin. I thought we were more open and fun than I thought. No problem. I will help things out by saying alot less. So we have become more like the Stepford Wives stratomatic league. Uh oh, ignore that, I was just joking. All of the rest of the league love this web site so it is good by me. On more serious side, any of you guys know how to make these yahoo groups, could you make one for NOMBL for thick skinned guys who want to write messages to a group and have fun without having to be so serious? We got some pretty cool guys in this league to have fun with. You fun guys are all invited to my house in Tampa for the day of the draft. Free beer and food and place to sleep and NO SNOW. ray BKN -----Original Message----- From: vasquires <[email protected]> To: nombl <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Feb 6, 2012 9:33 am Subject: RE: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 This is exactly why the rules say not to send these kinds of email (negitive comments about trades or league to me ONLY). We have had other NEW managers quit due to similar types emails. Had these emails about PEN and VA trade been addressed to me I could have corrected the trade in my spreed sheet and NONE of these emails would have happened. Robert please note that unless it comes from commish office then trades cant/wont be voided. They were addressed toward me and nothing to do w U. As for the offering 1 player and trading another happens all the time so I think he was just wondering as he may have been interested in either or both pitchers. I also spoke to Mark and told him I wouldnt have done it due 2 Hudson's inj but as Lou stated he loves the deal and that is all that matters. I also think he made up for pitchers part with getting the better C. I wish I had a dollar for everytime guys disagreed w my trades I could retire. ROBERT ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Robert Schwartz <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: RE: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 20:52:11 -0800 Because I have no obligation to tell anyone what I want to deal. I chose to shop Lincecum and not Hudson. This open email sucks. If the league is cutthroat as iit appears go ahead and replace me. Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 19:52:57 -0800 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: Fw: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 To: [email protected] Trade should be voided since you can not trade 2 for 1 at this time and second I also feel that the Penn/Tidewater deal was to one sided in Penn's favor so we need to do a review of that trade. Why did Penn offer around Tim Linscum than switch it to Hudson?? From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 5, 2012 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Fw: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania 1/17/12 This is what I was afraid of.....................Since the Squires had 42 total players, they were able to trade 2 for 1................. To move up 15 picks, and avoid allowing Rauch to "possibly" be in the " Stink draft"....................... ---- "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > what's problem > > > ROBERT > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected],[email protected] > Subject: NOMBL (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania > Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 11:39:27 -0500 > > (Enter) Virginia trade with Pennsylvania > 2012-01-17 11:39:27 > > > Enter > > To Virginia Squires: > 2012 #166 pick > > To Pennsylvania Maulers: > Jon Rauch > 2012 #181 pick > > Use this url to go to the Confirm page: > http://flory.net/php/confirm.php?league=nombl > > > League Web Site: http://flory.net/nombl/ > ____________________________________________________________ > 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 > The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4f2f3287aac00cb67b4st06duc > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "NOMBL" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nombl?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NOMBL" group. 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