No, I don't think you should be more like X or Y. And I don't want to
lecture you either. I think you are just fine and of course you can post
whatever you want. I just wanted to point out that there is at least one
person not contributing because of the way communication is done is this
project. Not to blame you but to suggest that there might be a low
hanging fruit to improve the patch frequency you were annoyed about.
And, no, I'm subscribed long enough to not be surprised you are putting
a lot of effort in "resistance" and trying to "win" this argument.
Therefore I might really be blamed to waste both our time and those of
other people on this list. I will end this now, unsubscribe (list reply
won't cut it in case you want me to know your response), and maintain my
own fork.
Stay healthy and keep up the good work. All the best,
Phil
On 28.01.21 16:00, J. Liles wrote:
So you submitted a patch to the "fork", but you didn't submit it to
the real project. Interesting. I suppose you have some justification
for that?
Regarding your recommendation that I should become obsequious. I'm
sure you're thinking of some expression like "you catch more flies
with honey than vinegar." I should point out to you how you yourself
came on with a critical, negative approach and yet were apparently
surprised to meet resistance. It's my ML, I can post whatever I want
(any idiot could see that). But anyway, enough about you. Consider the
possibility that I'm simply not interested in catching flies. So I
employ neither honey nor vinegar. Think of it like talking to a
mirror. You'd be surprised how nice I am if you could just look beyond
your prejudice.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021, 6:45 AM Philipp Mueller
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 28.01.21 02:32, J. Liles wrote:
> Believe me, I know well that it isn't possible to be both right and
> likeable. It's simply a matter of perception. We instinctively
dislike
> that which appears to oppose the views to which we become attached.
IME all that is required are some nice and empathic words. I also
decline out-of-scope feature requests or ask people to rewrite
their PRs
to fit a particular coding style but I can't remember a single harsh
word that resulted from that. But yes, it's quite demanding and
sometimes feels like a waste of time to deal with all the
issues/PRs/discussions and stuff.
>
> I checked the git history and didn't see your name anywhere, so I
> think we all have nothing to lose from your parting.
As I said, I abstained from it. I fixed a rescaling bug in the GUI of
the session manager in the fork. Nothing critical since this only
affects tiling window managers.
>
> Get off of twitter, man, and get your head straight. This isn't
some
> insurance company representative who has to be nice to you no
matter
> what you say. This is the guy who spent decades of his life
making you
> gifts and giving them to you for free. And instead of gratitude,
> instead of silent neutrality even, you repay his kindness by piling
> onto him when you see him being abused. What a gentleman you must
> think you are, what a shining example of how to behave agreeably.
>
I have a lot of gratitude to you. And I do understand you point (in
fact, I hold you in high regard for keeping it simple and to not
accepting the LV2 PR). I just wanted to point out your community
might
be more diverse than you think and some might be put off by the way
communication is practiced here. I mean, common on, I asked you to
please not send personal attacks on public mailing list. As a
response
you called me a coward, uncivilized, and suggest I'm just here for
trolling you. Please be/stay positive and don't let being the victim
become a way of life.
