At 20:35 07/01/2009, [email protected] wrote:

>There was an awful lot of fraud, irresponsibility and the like on 
>the borrowers' side in all this. But as I said before, I frankly am 
>not sure that is the real nub of the problem. It is the credit 
>default swaps and the like that are ultimately causing the financial 
>crisis, not the sub-prime mortgage market.

Over the pond, the perception is that it's a political lack of
controls that is at the root of the problem.

A lack due partly to ideology, partly to business being in bed with government.

This is borne out by the fact that the further a system is from the
post-Reagan model, the better it's current posture (yes, there are
exceptions like Iceland).

john g




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