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Today's Topics:

   1. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: A speech plugin
      (SourceForge.net)
   2. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Notepad++    4.7.3 Docking
      Modification (SourceForge.net)
   3. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: Need      input on the
      future of Simple Script (SourceForge.net)
   4. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: Need      input on the
      future of Simple Script (SourceForge.net)
   5. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: Need      input on the
      future of Simple Script (SourceForge.net)
   6. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Notepad++    v4.7.3 is
      released (SourceForge.net)
   7. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Notepad++    v4.7.3 crash
      (SourceForge.net)
   8. [notepad-plus - Help] RE: User Defined Language   - Hex numbers
      (SourceForge.net)
   9. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: NEW ICON     MUST
      BE!!!!!!!!!!!! (SourceForge.net)
  10. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Vertical     scrolling below
      last line imposs (SourceForge.net)
  11. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: Need      input on the
      future of Simple Script (SourceForge.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:43:33 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: A
        speech plugin
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By: dxoch

pause/resume feature added in v0.2 thanks for the feedback

-Jim

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:52:05 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Notepad++       4.7.3 Docking Modification
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By: donho

I have some crash issues here (under vista) :
When I dock Light explorer plugin or Window manager or both on the left side,
this new implementation will crash when I quit Notepad++. It's quite random
(not 100% reproducible) so I can not tell where the problem come from (docking
system or plugin).

Has anyone the same issue?

Don  

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:57:43 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        Need    input on the future of Simple Script
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By: nobody

Using a template to create an HTML link from a selected text, like this:
This is the selected text

The template would look something like this:
<a [EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>

When you select the text and execute the template the result would be:
<a href="This is the selected text">This is the selected text</a>

This would require to be able to refer to the text selection by some kind of
variable.


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:02:34 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        Need    input on the future of Simple Script
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By: nobody

> templates will still be stored as scripts.
> click a button on the Templates tab, which basically runs a script that does
some
> processing on each line of the text...

This isn't like your original idea, which I guess would treat templates like
in my opinion they are (meant to be):

> Hello, <<%Name%>>. You are <<%Name%>>, are you not? My name is <<%Name2%>>. 

If you store these pseudo-templates as scripts, where will the templates 
themselves
be left? Does a user have to store them himself? It's not very convenient to
have to edit the pseudo-template script, as being able to store and edit the
template itself would be.


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:09:00 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        Need    input on the future of Simple Script
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By: nobody

I would treat all kind of scripts the same, always allowing any of the three
selection options. Like I suggested before, a script could force its type 
behavior
by setting a variable so it will always work from the current position without
any selection, or on the complete document.

Perhaps this could also be used to avoid scripts to be run when no selection
is made and a selection is required (checked from the same or a similar variable
set by the script itself).


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:10:21 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Notepad++       v4.7.3 is released
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By: donho

> it seems that if you enable notepad++ auto-updater it tries to update 
> backwards
to v4.6 on each start.
 
I can figure out now why your updater has such behaviour. 
You have updated only Notepad++, but not gup.exe (updater). 
Downloading the newest version of gup.exe from here then replacing the old one
will remedy your problem :
https://sourceforge.net/projects/gup-w32/ 
 
Don 

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:13:28 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Notepad++       v4.7.3 crash
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By: donho

Could you give us more description to reproduce the crash, so we can remove
the crash problem?

Thank you.

Don

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:16:47 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] RE: User Defined
        Language        - Hex numbers
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By: nobody

Does this say _anything_ about highlighting numbers, or more specifically, 
specifying
which words are treated as numbers?

I believe Notepad++ (or Scintilla) has its own definition of number, consisting
of only numeric characters and separators, not the alpha-characters A-F or any
prefix specifying the type of the number.


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:22:48 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: NEW
        ICON    MUST BE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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By: donho

If anyone want to submit new icon, he/she is welcome.

However, there're a couple of conditions to be filled full :

1. It should be pretty :) - according to my taste, so it'll be subjective
totally.
2. It should has the same look under win95/98/me. One submitted icon was 
eliminated
because it's ugly under my win98.

Don

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:27:40 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Vertical        scrolling below last line imposs
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By: nobody

I merely meant this as I kind of joke. I don't really see the point in trying
to move a line to the middle of the screen to get a better focus, if it's on
the edge of the file. I suggest you just make your window smaller then.

There are some applications which do allow scrolling beyond the last line of
the document on the last line of the window. The size of the scroll bar may
be a "problem" here. I think it normal to expect the size of the scroll bar
to reflect the relative size of the visible part of the document as opposed
to the available scrolling space. This means you can't scroll beyond the end
of the document or above its top by using the scroll bar.

The applications I know allow pressing the arrow buttons above and below the
scrolling space to go beyond that limit. The result will be the scroll bar 
getting
smaller and being smallest when only the top or bottom line is visible. 
(Actually,
they don't allow scrolling up, I mention it just to be consistent.) If the 
scroll
bar gets smaller, of course its size isn't relative anymore to the real number
of lines the document contains.

Allow this scroll-beyond-extremes functionality requires the scroll bar size
to be adjusted when it is being used or when it is left, that is, when the user
scrolls back to a "normal" position, either by dragging it or clicking above
or below the bar. This may have an impact on performance, although I don't see
this in the application I use.


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:36:35 -0800
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        Need    input on the future of Simple Script
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By: fidvo

I could see three ways of doing this.

1) One would be to generate the script based upon adding the lines from the
document one by one.

As long as I add "GetVariables()" and "ReplaceVariables()" onto the end of each
template script, it should still work just fine.

For example:

Hello, <<%Name%>>. You are <<%Name%>>, are you not? My name is <<%Name2%>>.

would be converted into the following template script:

add("Hello, <<%Name%>>. You are <<%Name%>>, are you not? My name is
<<%Name2%>>.")
getvariables()
replacevariables()

2) The second way would be to store the text itself, and generate the script
only when you want to open the template.  The advantage of this would be that
I could provide an interface to edit the text, but the disadvantage would be
that you couldn't edit the script that opens the template.  This wouldn't allow
the possibility of creating template scripts manually.

The third way would be a compromise between the two: You store templates as
both text and a script.  I could add a function 
appendtemplatetext(templatetextname).
You could still edit the script that opens the template in a new document, and
I would still provide an interface to edit the text itself.

For example, you might store the "Hello" text in example 1 above as a template
text called "Hello".

When you save it, it automatically creates a template script, also called 
"Hello"
which is simply the following:

appendtemplatetext("Hello")
getvariables()
replacevariables()

That would just be a default, however.  You're free to modify the script however
you want.  You could also modify the text behind the script.  I would try to
make both of these features simple to get to (e.g. a button for each on the
Template window)

You could still create template scripts manually in case you don't want to work
from stored text.

In fact, by modifying the scripts, you could even string multiple template texts
together.  e.g.

appendtemplatetext("Hello")
appendtemplatetext("Goodbye")
getvariables()
replacevariables()

This method solves most of the problems; however, it seems to be a little more
complicated than I would like, and perhaps confusing for the user.  The most
important thing would be to work out some kind of terminology to distinguish
between the stored text and the script that loads it.

3b) A variation of option (3), I could store the template texts externally as
files on the hard drive.  Templates then would be similar to Favorites, in that
they load a file when you run them.  The actual templates would still be scripts
underneath, but they would have an "appendfile" function instead of an
"appendtemplatetext" function by default.


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