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Today's Topics:

   1. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] CCompletion   1.08
      (SourceForge.net)
   2. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: NppExec   v. 0.2.4 has
      been released! (SourceForge.net)
   3. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] Feature Req:     Keyboard use in
      FTP folders (SourceForge.net)
   4. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Improvement/Support of
      Big File Handling (SourceForge.net)
   5. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: NppExec   v. 0.2.4 has
      been released! (SourceForge.net)
   6. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Improvement/Support of
      Big File Handling (SourceForge.net)
   7. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Improvement/Support of
      Big File Handling (SourceForge.net)
   8. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE: Adding set   of keywords
      to syntax highlighter (SourceForge.net)
   9. [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE: Snippet   Drag and Drop
      Control Plugin Request (SourceForge.net)
  10. [notepad-plus - Help] Update upgrade install      new Notepad++
      safely (SourceForge.net)
  11. [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:      Improvement/Support of
      Big File Handling (SourceForge.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 15:48:37 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development]
        CCompletion     1.08
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By: ccompletion

Hi, everyone!

Here's the latest version of CCompletion, an autocompletion plugin designed
for the C programming language. It also works nicely for some other languages,
due to CTags power. However, CCompletion is aimed at C, so don't expect too
much...

Changes in 1.08:
1. fixed some bugs
2. redesigned history function - now you have separated buffers for both views
and can navigate them freely
3. improved snippets
4. made shortcuts useless unless you redefine them ;)

Link is the same:
http://freeweb.siol.net/rmihor/NppCCompletionPlugin.zip

Regards,
Bostjan


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:40:03 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        NppExec v. 0.2.4 has been released!
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By: dv__

OK, I'll remove it.
But after it I'll just ignore repeating questions similar to "How can I run
a compiler in NppExec Console" or "Why NPP_EXEC does not run my .exe file"?

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:48:07 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] Feature
        Req:    Keyboard use in FTP folders
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By: mapsedge

Would love to be able to open a file from FTP folder view by hitting the ENTER
key.


One of the biggest killers in productivity for me is switching between keyboard
and mouse.  Using a keyboard shortcut, I can open the FTP folders; using arrows,
I can open/close treeview nodes, move between files and folders.

But when I reach the desired file, I have to remove my hand from the keyboard,
grab the mouse and double-click the file to open it.

It would be nice if I could merely highlight the file and hit the ENTER key.

Thanks!  

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:37:21 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Improvement/Support of Big File Handling
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By: nobody

One way to have n++ work better with large files is for it to check the size
of the file before loading it and if it's above some number (like a couple or
few MB) then disable highlighting and other features which slow things down.

Given that many other programs work with large files (some load the whole file
in memory and some don't), n++ can be made to do so too.

For most memory issues, probably, any error message needs to come from the OS.
And most OS's suck bad at these types of error messages.  It's some other 
process's
fault.  Well yeah the program may not have made sure there was enough memory
before trying to use it but the OS can do something other than allow a silent
seizure to take place. OS's are still infants.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:44:56 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        NppExec v. 0.2.4 has been released!
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By: jenslorenz

I like your suggestion. Implement it and I will update my CVS folder of NppExec
to get the correct header file. Please keep in mind that it should be possible
to send arguments with quotations marks like:
"C:\\" "C:\\Program Files\\"

This example shows 2 arguments - just only if SF removes some chars...

BTW: You should use my combo box classes of HexEditor to select the consoles
colors. It's easier to change them by this implementation than to add some hex
values.


Best Regards and Thanks
Jens

PS: My other request was something like a Output Window for dynamic traces or
other stuff and I still developed it for me.


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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:51:44 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Improvement/Support of Big File Handling
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By: clrs530

> One thing is NPP's own file handling code etc., but isn't part of the 
> "bigfile"
limitation bound to the
> Scintilla control?

Its relatively sure that the crash happens in Scintilla yes.

> AFAIK, current scintilla doesn't handle very large files well, as it was 
> written
with smaller (source code)
> files in mind...

That might be but Notepad++ controls scintilla and scintilla is also "only"
for the visual output so Notepad++ can control how much and what should be shown
by Scintilla.
Maybe the only really good working change would be to open big files with some
limitations but I would love to see everything working.

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:57:17 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
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By: clrs530

> For most memory issues, probably, any error message needs to come from the
OS. And most OS's suck bad at these
> types of error messages. It's some other process's fault. Well yeah the 
> program
may not have made sure there
> was enough memory before trying to use it but the OS can do something other
than allow a silent seizure to
> take place. OS's are still infants.

I dont know if you have a real technical beackground here. Its not really
possible to show how much memory availible is and no one would try this. A 
program
can easily try to allocate memory and if this fails doing any workaround/stoping
or exit with a error where you know what happens.
The system error isnt really an error message it says only that the program
crashes on an instruction.

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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:57:58 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Adding set      of keywords to syntax highlighter
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By: nobody

It would be great to have the ability to do formatting based on regexps!

I'd also love a little clearer instructions on how to edit the XML directly
to do things that can't be done in the GUI.

I'd love to be able to format the characters ' and " in php differently, for
example, and so far haven't been able to by editing the XML or the GUI.  Adding
the ability to format based on regexps would solve almost all formatting issues
that people have.

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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:01:42 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Plugin Development] RE:
        Snippet Drag and Drop Control Plugin Request
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By: jenslorenz

I second this also ;). But I haven't much time. Next release is hopefully a
BETA of FunctionList. But at the moment some bug reports for Explorer and 
HexEditor
are upcoming.

However, if anyone would like to implement this, here are some ideas how to
implement it faster.
Merge the functionality of Faves of Explorer plugin and QuickText. The tree
should view something like this:

+General
+C
+Java
+NSIS
+HTML
|  |-DOCTYPE
|  |-HEAD
|  |-href
|  |-table22
|  '-table44
+Perl

Each snippet language group like "HTML" contains language specific snippets
;) and will be collapsed if the language is recognized by Notepad. The item
"General" contains snippets that can be used at any time and will not be 
toggled.
Also the window should IMO contain a filter like the Function List alpha. If
anyone would like to have the code, please let me know.
QuickText should be a little modified. Every modification position should be
marked with some quotes like <<link>>. If there exist in the snippet two 
identical
positions the other one should be updated.


Best Regards
Jens <- @jive01: pay attention to the 's' .)

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:14:16 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Help] Update upgrade
        install new Notepad++ safely
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By: fool4uanyway

> My question -- how should one update in the future?
> Best method to retain current settings?

What I always do:

* I keep a _backup_ of the complete Notepad++ installation folder. Whenever
there is a new version I update this backup. It would be easiest to simply 
create
the backup just prior to installing each new version. I also keep a backup in
the installation directory itself of some .xml settings files. After updating
the backup, I also update this backup folder.

So, I can safely install a new version, by using the new Notepad++ _installer_.
The installer takes care of current settings, only adding new settings to them.

After installation, I always compare both directories, backup folder against
new installation, to check and possibly correct any differences or changes.

I do the same after running and closing the new version.

Another way to _test_ a new version:

* Unzip the .zip archive to a _new_, _separate_, folder, and run the new 
Notepad++
from there. If anything should go wrong, you would be able to just delete the
new folder. If it's OK, you will still have to copy your settings either way.

In short: .zip archives are easy for separate testing of a small but complete
package.
If you want to upgrade, update and keep your settings, _always_ use the
installer.
To be safe: always keep a backup folder or create one prior to installing any
new version.


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Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:16:08 +0000
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Subject: [Notepad-plus-plus] [notepad-plus - Open Discussion] RE:
        Improvement/Support of Big File Handling
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By: nobody

> I dont know if you have a real technical beackground here. Its not really
possible to show how much memory availible is and no one would try this. A 
program
can easily try to allocate memory and if this fails doing any workaround/stoping
or exit with a error where you know what happens.
The system error isnt really an error message it says only that the program
crashes on an instruction.

I do have a technical background and I am a programmer but I haven't had to
be involved in these issues so there is a lot I don't know.  I have worked much
with C++ and memory allocation in the past.  Yes one should catch any allocation
failures.  But I doubt you are right that a program can't check how much memory
is available given that there are many 3rd party programs that work at a level
where this must be necessary and even free utilities report on various states
of memory.

Yes the system errors typically suck and could be much more rebust.  It's easy
to blame it on the architecture but it is the OS's responsibility to manage
memory.  This is why is say that OS's are infants.


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