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Ewan Mellor updated CTAKES-499:
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    Description: 
I have been looking for instructions on how to submit changes to cTakes.  It’s 
been harder than I expected!
  
 Firstly, I sent this as an email to 
[d...@ctakes.apache.org|mailto:d...@ctakes.apache.org] twice, and it did not 
get through both times.  I am subscribed to the list.  I presume that your spam 
filter dropped it, which means that it is dropping legitimate email from list 
subscribers.
  
 On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES], there is a 
link labeled "Become a committer”, but that goes to 
[http://ctakes.apache.org/ppmc-faqs.html], which is a broken link.
  
 I’m guessing that it was supposed to be 
[https://ctakes.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html].  On that page, it says "we have 
different kind of roles like user, developer, Committer ...  The following are 
conditions to become a Committer: 1. You have sent in patches ..."  It doesn’t 
say anything about how to actually send a patch.
  
 On 
[https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+4.0+Developer+Install+Guide],
 there is a description on how to get the source from Subversion, or Subversion 
+ Git.  It doesn’t explain why I would want to use two VCSs at the same time 
(?).  It also doesn’t say anything about submitting changes, either through svn 
or git, nor GitHub or email.
  
 On [https://ctakes.apache.org/developer-faqs.html], it says "Submit issues 
using JIRA. Anyone may read the issues. You must be a contributor to add or 
edit issues.”  It doesn’t say how you become a contributor.  It also isn't 
true, because here I am submitting an issue on Jira. I don't know why it says 
that in the FAQ.  It initially put me off from filing a ticket.
  
 On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/Best+Practices] it says 
to create a Jira ticket and mention it in the commit message, but it also 
doesn’t say how to actually submit a patch.  It looks like this page is 
intended for Committers (i.e. those with direct commit rights) but it doesn't 
say anything about best practices when you *don't* have commit rights.
  
 For what it’s worth the Tika project has this page: 
[https://tika.apache.org/contribute.html], and their readme at 
[https://github.com/apache/tika/].  Between them they have instructions on 
where to file issues, how to submit patches through GitHub, and how to get 
changes reviewed.  That’s the kind of info for cTakes that I was looking for.  
Other projects that I’ve worked with (Apache or otherwise) have taken patches 
through email, or a bug tracker, or a system like Gerrit.  I’m trying to find 
out what cTakes is using.
  
 I have changes that I would like to submit, but I am failing at the first 
hurdle.
  

  was:
I have been looking for instructions on how to submit changes to cTakes.  It’s 
been harder than I expected!
 
Firstly, I sent this as an email to 
[d...@ctakes.apache.org|mailto:d...@ctakes.apache.org] twice, and it did not 
get through both times.  I am subscribed to the list.  I presume that your spam 
filter dropped it, which means that it is dropping legitimate email from list 
subscribers.
 
On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES], there is a link 
labeled "Become a committer”, but that goes to 
[http://ctakes.apache.org/ppmc-faqs.html], which is a broken link.
 
I’m guessing that it was supposed to be 
[https://ctakes.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html].  On that page, it says "we have 
different kind of roles like user, developer, Committer ...  The following are 
conditions to become a Committer: 1. You have sent in patches ..."  It doesn’t 
say anything about how to actually send a patch.
 
On 
[https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+4.0+Developer+Install+Guide],
 there is a description on how to get the source from Subversion, or Subversion 
+ Git.  It doesn’t explain why I would want to use two VCSs at the same time 
(?).  It also doesn’t say anything about submitting changes, either through svn 
or git, nor GitHub or email.
 
On [https://ctakes.apache.org/developer-faqs.html], it says "Submit issues 
using JIRA. Anyone may read the issues. You must be a contributor to add or 
edit issues.”  It doesn’t say how you become a contributor.  It also isn't 
true, because here I am submitting an issue on Jira. I don't know why it says 
that in the FAQ.  It initially put me off from filing a ticket.
 
On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/Best+Practices] it says 
to create a Jira ticket and mention it in the commit message, but it also 
doesn’t say how to actually submit a patch.  It looks like this page is 
intended for Committers (i.e. those with direct commit rights) but it doesn't 
say anything about best practices when you *don't* have commit rights.
 
For what it’s worth the Tika project has this page: 
[https://tika.apache.org/contribute.html], and their readme at 
[https://github.com/apache/tika/].  Between them they have instructions on 
where to file issues, how to submit patch through GitHub, and how to get 
changes reviewed.  That’s the kind of info for cTakes that I was looking for.  
Other projects that I’ve worked with (Apache or otherwise) have taken patches 
through email, or a bug tracker, or a system like Gerrit.  I’m trying to find 
out what cTakes is using.
 
I have changes that I would like to submit, but I am failing at the first 
hurdle.
 


> cTakes has no documentation on how to submit patches as an external 
> contributor
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: CTAKES-499
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-499
>             Project: cTAKES
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Ewan Mellor
>            Priority: Minor
>
> I have been looking for instructions on how to submit changes to cTakes.  
> It’s been harder than I expected!
>   
>  Firstly, I sent this as an email to 
> [d...@ctakes.apache.org|mailto:d...@ctakes.apache.org] twice, and it did not 
> get through both times.  I am subscribed to the list.  I presume that your 
> spam filter dropped it, which means that it is dropping legitimate email from 
> list subscribers.
>   
>  On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES], there is a 
> link labeled "Become a committer”, but that goes to 
> [http://ctakes.apache.org/ppmc-faqs.html], which is a broken link.
>   
>  I’m guessing that it was supposed to be 
> [https://ctakes.apache.org/pmc-faqs.html].  On that page, it says "we have 
> different kind of roles like user, developer, Committer ...  The following 
> are conditions to become a Committer: 1. You have sent in patches ..."  It 
> doesn’t say anything about how to actually send a patch.
>   
>  On 
> [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/cTAKES+4.0+Developer+Install+Guide],
>  there is a description on how to get the source from Subversion, or 
> Subversion + Git.  It doesn’t explain why I would want to use two VCSs at the 
> same time (?).  It also doesn’t say anything about submitting changes, either 
> through svn or git, nor GitHub or email.
>   
>  On [https://ctakes.apache.org/developer-faqs.html], it says "Submit issues 
> using JIRA. Anyone may read the issues. You must be a contributor to add or 
> edit issues.”  It doesn’t say how you become a contributor.  It also isn't 
> true, because here I am submitting an issue on Jira. I don't know why it says 
> that in the FAQ.  It initially put me off from filing a ticket.
>   
>  On [https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CTAKES/Best+Practices] it 
> says to create a Jira ticket and mention it in the commit message, but it 
> also doesn’t say how to actually submit a patch.  It looks like this page is 
> intended for Committers (i.e. those with direct commit rights) but it doesn't 
> say anything about best practices when you *don't* have commit rights.
>   
>  For what it’s worth the Tika project has this page: 
> [https://tika.apache.org/contribute.html], and their readme at 
> [https://github.com/apache/tika/].  Between them they have instructions on 
> where to file issues, how to submit patches through GitHub, and how to get 
> changes reviewed.  That’s the kind of info for cTakes that I was looking for. 
>  Other projects that I’ve worked with (Apache or otherwise) have taken 
> patches through email, or a bug tracker, or a system like Gerrit.  I’m trying 
> to find out what cTakes is using.
>   
>  I have changes that I would like to submit, but I am failing at the first 
> hurdle.
>   



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