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Pierre Smits commented on OFBIZ-12439:
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Hi Jacques,
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#1 Showing the payment (or invoice) sub-menu when there is no info (like in 
overview) about the payment (or invoice) seems ambiguous to me. For instance 
for payment attribute there is a Create button but it's to create a payment not 
an attribute.
#2 I understand it's only about view, but, for both invoice and payment, would 
not be logical to have an attribut create feature before being able to view 
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Re #1 Indeed, the label for the 'create' trigger is ambiguous. As a result of 
past choices. I tried to fix that with OFBIZ-11780 and PR181 in June of 2020. 
But that didn't get in. If it had been, the trigger for sub elements of an 
object (Invoice, Payment, etc) either via <object>SubTabBar menu or directly 
(via links) would have been much less ambiguous. 

Re #2 That, my friend, is a classic chicken and egg situation. And the lack of 
functionality to create something regarding an entity is another issue and 
ticket.

> VIEW permissions Payment Attributes
> -----------------------------------
>
>                 Key: OFBIZ-12439
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-12439
>             Project: OFBiz
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: accounting
>    Affects Versions: Trunk
>            Reporter: Pierre Smits
>            Assignee: Pierre Smits
>            Priority: Major
>              Labels: attribute, payment, permissions, usability
>
> Though there is an entity PaymentAttribute this cannot be accessed by user 
> with VIEW permissions when accessing a Payment.
> See:
>  * for entity data: 
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/webtools/control/entity/find/PaymentAttribute
>  * test payment: 
> https://demo-trunk.ofbiz.apache.org/accounting/control/paymentOverview?paymentId=8003



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